I mean we could add the Mazo and not remove the Reibi. I didn't consider that actually. I just wanted the Reibi removed because it's really not a bijuu at all.
Kay I get the idea of trying to stop World Level destruction from entering the general public, but you guys failed at that.
"Complete Body — Susanoo (完成体 須佐能乎, Kanseitai — Susanoo, Viz: Perfect Susanoo).[16] In this state, Susanoo gains a tengu-like nose, wings for flight, and is clad with robes and ornate armour. This form possesses power comparable to that of a tailed beast, capable of levelling giant mountains and, when enhanced by Six Paths Chakra, small planetoids with ease. "
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Susanoo"The impact of this technique was of such enormity that it devastated a significant portion of the Fourth Division with the resulting tremors being felt as far away as the Allied Shinobi Forces' headquarters.[2] It was also able to completely destroy Madara's Susanoo, and obliterate his body."
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Tengai_Shinsei"The resulting damage that this technique can produce varies considerably, depending on the initial shape of the created structure. For example, when fabricated in the form of a cube, the structure possesses a relatively small blast radius, minimising the possibility for collateral damage. However, the conical version was implied to be enough to potentially destroy an entire island."
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Dust_Release:_Detachment_of_the_Primitive_World_Technique"Shinra Tensei can be used on a larger scale for massive destruction. A massive amount of repulsive force is placed above the target, crushing everything beneath in an enormous explosion."
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Shinra_TenseiI have ALL 4 OF THOSE, and so can basically anyone else at this point. I'm sure there were good intentions at the time but now just keeping the Mazo out of circulation because it's strong enough to blow everything up is a pretty pointless thing to insist on.
Funny you should mention spite though Warren because unlike Kay I can't really imagine you having good intentions. You claim to have important plans for the Mazo but how long have you had it now? At least a year. What are you still doing? Unless you're acting out Black Zetsu's plan
in real time I can't imagine what you wouldn't be finished with by now. How many people have gotten to interact in anyway with the Mazo through out the time it's been had by Yumei, Kyu, and then you? Maybe the chicks you take back to your bachelor pad on the moon, if they're lucky? I'm willing to bet twice as many people got to interact with the Mazo the one time Hazama was allowed to summon it during Akatsuki's attack on Kiri than ever before or ever again.
Honestly the only issue is that I want it, it makes infinitely more sense for the Mazo to be challenge-able over the Reibi and the only reason people aren't readily agreeing to that simple fact is because I'd use the Mazo.
But the Mazo should be available for the same reason that I was adamant about one person being able to hold multiple bijuu in the rules topic, people who want to rp as villains and such have as much a right to as the people who want to do peaceful rps. So making rules to expressly prevent their plans from being carried out is not ok to me, and forming private cabals among ourselves to keep items that we personally don't want to see in rp out of circulation is not ok to me either.
I'm sure they intent was good at the the time but I think the decision was a wrong one, and I want to correct it. The Mazo is a piece of the 10 tails just like the Bijuu and should be defendable just like the bijuu.
Did shit get really OP at the end of Naruto, yeah, but some people are going to want to rp that, just like some people would rather rp like Shippuden had never happened, and both of them are completely right to rp those things.
If there was some ability that was irreconcilably broken, like how when Izanami was revealed but before it was explained some people were honestly going, "Izanami! It's your destiny to have a heart attack! You die!" that's ridiculous. That's just a Death Note with no prerequisite. If that was how that jutsu worked than yes we would be doing good to remove it from rp. There is no benefit that techniques existence could give us.
Honestly I would prefer that all canon items could be challenged for, if not like a bijuu than just that you'd be obligated to at least rp with a person who wants to try and get it because if you're not willing to defend what you have than you don't deserve it. I know that will never happen but that's how I feel about Warren and the Mazo and Kiri and their swords. I completely think that if push came to shove both of them would rather their item be destroyed and cease to exist utterly than go to anyone else.
I can vividly picture someone actually spending a year infiltrating Kiri and successfully stealing all 7 of the swordsmen blades only for Kiri to go, "Well, actually there's a seal on them and if anyone ever leaves the village with all seven swords the seal activates and vaporizes all seven of the blades and the person who stole them." Tell me you couldn't see that.
That's the issue we have here because people want to rp whatever they want and unfortunately that includes never ever losing in even the slightest fashion to anyone. You don't need to be OP to do that. If some people could just make it a rule that any rp where they lose is void they would do that. If that means there's a full half as much rp taking place than that's a worthy sacrifice to them.
I think limiting rp in any place that it does not expressly need to be limited is wrong. If this was a Part 1 Naruto rp site and we only rp'd from the start of Naruto to the Valley of the End fight than yes I could see saying no the Mazo shouldn't be used, that would be correct, the Mazo is way too strong for Naruto where we've barely begun tapping into Bijuu power. But we are open to the entire series and everything else as well.
Warren is a homunculus with a demon sealed inside him that lives on the Moon. That's not an insult, but that is funny. Anyone could rp that which, out of context, is a pretty comical scenario. There's 0 things wrong with that and it's completely accepted.
So what is so ridiculous about the Mazo that it needs to be sealed away? If it's just the things destructive power, as I've said already, anyone can destroy an entire village 3 ways to Sunday without much effort, so that's really a moot point.