But really I see no problem with people making a -ton like Ototon etc, they have the right to do whatever they want, just because it didn't say them back then doesn't mean it doesn't have that title or anything. Back when they were first used Naruto was still new, and not everything did have the current system like it does now.
Actually that's exactly what it means >.>
Sound jutsu was first explained in Chapter 53 and 87 with Dosu's attack. Okay fine, that's kinda early but then we have seen a genjutsu using sound in Chapter 208 with Tayuya's attack. That's pretty deep in the manga. Also, that kind of reasoning doesnt support the Kageton since we have seen Shika's shadow jutsu all the way through till Chapter 338 in his battle against Hiden. In addition with the link I gave in my last post, yin and yang has something to do with non-elemental jutsus, in which Shika's shadow jutsu and most likely sound jutsu will fall into. Once Kishi fully explains the whole "yin and yang" thing fully, it will most likely destroy whatever chance there is of an "ototon" or "kageton"
But you're right, ppl do have the right to do whatever they want. I'm pretty strict with following the manga and the actions I take are based morally on that. If I feel it's wrong to do something that hasnt been shown/proven in Naruto manga (or sometimes even the anime), then I wont do it. That's another reason why I stand against the whole "ototon" and "kageton" thing, I feel it's morally wrong to do it. Like how I feel it would be morally wrong for some1 to claim they have mokuton but they dont have chakra affinities in doton and/or suiton >.>
But like I said...I'm not going to stop in the middle of a zone fight to argue over such matters.
But I got a question. We know in other comicbook/manga fictions they are ppl that have the ability to generate ice w/o having it link to the ability to control water and/or wind. However if some1 claims they are a great Hyouton user, in reference they have mastery over ice and/or its jutsus, doesnt that mean they should have chakra affinities in water and wind? He's not calling himself a great ice user but a Hyouton user so in that sense, should that person restrict himself to the wind and water chakra affinities requirement? I'm just curious about this.
And considering how I am suppose to talk about Naruto chapter 464, I feel like I am extremely off topic >.>