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Total Members Voted: 12

Voting closed: May 06, 2012, 10:51:17 PM

[Chika]

SL, easier for Ace that way.

[KayentaMoenkopi]

So what you are saying is that once this council is formed, the public will never again have a voice about who is upon it? That in the future the council will elect its own members?

That sounds like a sure way for it to turn into an elite body of buddies rather than a body that the people wish to see serve on the council.

IF that is to be the case then we just as well not even bothered with this election in the first place.

Additionally. Each nominee only gets one vote? IF I don't use all my votes for 9 people that does not mean I can take my left over votes and put them all on one or two people.

[Timothy]

Kayenta raises a valid point in her own way. How/if will new members be elected in time, if say one retires/is found abusing his position?

[Ace]

So what you are saying is that once this council is formed, the public will never again have a voice about who is upon it? That in the future the council will elect its own members?

That sounds like a sure way for it to turn into an elite body of buddies rather than a body that the people wish to see serve on the council.

Not sure where that was said, BUT this council should be subject to this voting system every X amount of time. =)
All the groundwork is done for future elections. And this can occur after every X amount of months, simple I think.
Since the members and the views are not static, almost anything should be subject to change.

IF that is to be the case then we just as well not even bothered with this election in the first place.

Additionally. Each nominee only gets one vote? IF I don't use all my votes for 9 people that does not mean I can take my left over votes and put them all on one or two people.

Also, leftover votes (say you vote for only 2 people and have 7 remaining), should be for voting for different people. If you cannot do so, then simply vote twice for the people you know or like, and that's it (no person should be voted for twice by one person).

[KayentaMoenkopi]

Everyone won't use all of their votes even IF we said you must. You can't help the fact that they won't and what Kite stated is a good enough reason for them not to. The clear idea is for them to vote for who they want and not someone randomly. The council can add or remove those they see will be a great influence being seated within once established (if needed), or they can remove those who are unfit to be seated, general election within the council once it's made.

Ace. It was this statement I was referring to about the established council, if it is voted in, having the future power to put in and remove members. I prefer to see it work as you have stated concerning periodic elections as required.

[Ace]

Ah, well that defeats the purpose of voting, or acting as if this is democratic.
There should be disagreements with the council, all members shouldn't agree all the time.

If the members have elected an "unfit" candidate, then in the next election they can remove him/her.
The members will know who is doing the job that is best for them, and who is not- I could not stress activity enough here. Usually, many tend to forget to have an effective site, activity is crucial. If the person is doing little work or is inactive, choose someone else!

I'm sure members have noticed so far that I'm not engaging in the role play aspect, since I truly do not actively role play.
But, I'll be here to provide thoughts on the technical aspects per say.

[Uchiha, Rares]

SL.

[KayentaMoenkopi]

Just a clarifying question/post here because this discussion has been very hard to follow.

The voting begins when?
We only send our voted to Ace on SL or post something here too?
How long does the voting last?
And everyone will be spaming all over to encourage people to vote?

because of the last I wish to have my facts straight so as not to confuse the process more.
I suggest when pming people to go and vote that we include the list of nominees in that pm.
If all clan heads would send out clan mails that would help a great deal.

Thanks!

[Chika]

Elections will be done with people, but does this mean the people who aren't in the council get's to decide who is and will be in the council...democracy? The council is not to govern the entire SL, just Bijū affiliated matters.

Edit: Yes, that's how it should be once the voting commences. Kay...handshake? >>

[Raifudo Oppa]

Just a clarifying question/post here because this discussion has been very hard to follow.

The voting begins when?
We only send our voted to Ace on SL or post something here too?
How long does the voting last?
And everyone will be spaming all over to encourage people to vote?

because of the last I wish to have my facts straight so as not to confuse the process more.
I suggest when pming people to go and vote that we include the list of nominees in that pm.
If all clan heads would send out clan mails that would help a great deal.

Thanks!
Voting begins today. I told the realm, every way I could, today was voting day and, 2-3 days before, I had informed the realm, every way I could, to sign up for council if they wanted to.

Send our votes to Ace so he can verify IP addresses, etc.

Voting, I'm guessing, should last the same 3 days it took for people to sign up.

I already informed people, and told others to inform others, that the voting begins today.

Not sure where that was said, BUT this council should be subject to this voting system every X amount of time. =)
All the groundwork is done for future elections. And this can occur after every X amount of months, simple I think.
Since the members and the views are not static, almost anything should be subject to change.

I tried asking how we can edit members, and the like, but to no avail. I suppose we can just rely on the governing bodies (council) to decide how long is long enough for people to be within the body.

[KayentaMoenkopi]

Ok thanks.

This will be the body of the text I shall be spamming people with to vote.

Hello!

It was deemed necessary to elect a bijuu council to govern all things bijuu related. What follows will be a list of the nominees who wish to run for a seat on this council.

In the meantime, you only have three days to send your vote to Ace on SL via pm. He will be moderating the election to ensure things are handled properly and in a timely fashion.

The council will hold 9 seats. So you can vote for 9 names to serve or less than that depending upon how many of candidates you feel are qualified and will do a good job. You may not vote for a person more than one time.

Thank you for you interest and participation in this event.  We hope that this council will serve the best interests of SL's RP regarding all things bijuu in the future.

Candidates:

1 ) Raifudo
2 ) Trev
3 ) Uchiha, Rares
4 ) Asadi
5 ) Otokage ♪ Shadow
6 ) Hensō Goū
7 ) Yūmei
8 ) CJoftheDesert
9 ) Cmage
10 ) Styx
11 ) Isamu
12 ) Moonfire
13 ) Reimu Hakurei
14 ) Timothy
15 ) Nathan
16 ) Eric
17 ) Kage
18 ) UettoSenju
19 ) Raifuta oturanikamizu
20 ) Quest [Withdrawn]
21 ) Kingdomini (XxzeroninexX)
22 ) Chika
23 ) Uchiha_Tracey
24 ) Jaggerjack
25 ) Zenaku
26 ) Jinzo
27 ) Kite
28 ) Koji Musaki
29 ) Kamui
30 ) Bocchiere
31 ) Raijinthelightning
32 ) LightningRazgriz

[Ogree]

1.Rare
2.Kirk
3.Styx
4.Yumei
5.Tomi
6.Nathan

[Uchiha, Rares]

Please vote here:

http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,6983.0.html

Then pm your votes to Royal Guard Ace via SL.

[Ace]

After the polls are closed, I'll tally it up on my end.
Then hopefully I can find someone who can effectively double check the work, and hopefully the person can protect the privacy of each person's vote.
So, having someone else check the work will take time will depend on that person causing a possible delay on the results.

But, I will try to keep all updated through this process. =)

[Raifudo Oppa]

Any way I can help, Acey-kins?