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Void all techniques (Those agreed on) Past chapter 600. [Mostly the dojutsu ones]

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Re: Voiding of all new techniques past chapter 600?
« Reply #45 on: July 16, 2014, 04:11:44 PM »

Chapter 684: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/All-Killing_Ash_Bones (I believe this is fine as long as we make it clear the bones have to PIERCE you and not just make contact with your body)

The bones can pierce quite easily as you saw with the Naruto clone so i personally think this should go away to the void of the void realm, sorry Shikotsumyaku users.

Besides that that looks like a good rough draft, I still say we need a full list of all techniques voided by the majority on a separate thread just for sake of making it neat, and most of them are happening now.
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Re: Voiding of all new techniques past chapter 600?
« Reply #46 on: July 16, 2014, 06:38:59 PM »

It does say it needs to be placed directly on the heart, Eric.

Also, for the bones, even if it's a one-hit kill that isn't really OP, we have Jinton and Human Realm, so I don't think being able to stab someone with a bone for the win is any worse.

Also, yeah, I totally see the Izanagi Transcription basically being Never Die no Jutsu. We should make it clear that you need to state doing it and you should save your post as proof since it's going to look like bs when 8 months later someone stabs you and you say you're fine.
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Re: Voiding of all new techniques past chapter 600?
« Reply #47 on: July 16, 2014, 08:41:09 PM »

Meh, I think this is all too much. Nothing really needs to be voided, half of these techniques require a prerequisite like the Rinnegan shifting technique, and most of the new rasengans Naruto has shown. Since nobody on Sl is getting the sage's chakra, these techniques can't be used, so no need to actually void them as nobody will get the prerequisite.

Except for Limbo, cause screw that technique >>
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Re: Voiding of all new techniques past chapter 600?
« Reply #48 on: July 16, 2014, 10:54:58 PM »

I immediately regret offering to do this, but here it is. I am going to list them under the groups of "Needs no Attention" if the jutsu is fine "Questionable" if we might want to change it "Nope" if it's just completely voidable and "N/A" if it cannot be used on SL anyway (Usually in the case of Shinju/Sot6P Powers).

What I did was I went from chapter page to chapter page and listed anything that was made a page of it's own. So things like Madara's Multi-Chibaku Tensei are not listed as it is just a variation of Chibaku Tensei.

There are of course my OPINIONS, so it can certainly be brought up that something I think is fine should be voided. This is just a lot to digest and I thought I'd be nice and set us up all nice and pretty to start discussing it.

Oh by the way it's REALLY FREAKIN LONG.

1-42. Needs No Attention:
1. Chapter 600: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Fire_Release:_Blast_Wave_Wild_Dance
2. Chapter 601: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Gunbai_Barrier_Technique
3. Chapter 605: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Wood_Release:_Cutting_Technique
4. Chapter 607: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Wood_Release:_Wood_Dragon_Technique
5. Chapter 612: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Earth_Release:_Great_Moving_Earth_Core
6. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Fire_Release:_Great_Flame_Technique
7. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Water_Release:_Water_Bullet_Technique
8. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Wind_Release:_Air_Current_Wild_Dance
9. Chapter 617: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Wind_Release:_Great_Cast_Net
10. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Wind_Release:_Repeated_Rasenshuriken
11. Chapter 618: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Dead_Demon_Consuming_Seal:_Release
12. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Naka_Shrine_Pass_Technique
13. Chapter 620: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Wood_Release:_Wood_Human_Technique
14. Chapter 621: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Summoning:_Quintuple_Rash%C5%8Dmon
15. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Wood_Release:_H%C5%8Dbi_Technique
16. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Wood_Release:_Hotei_Technique
17. Chapter 630: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Earth_Release_Enclosing_Wall
18. Chapter 631: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Four_Red_Yang_Formation
19. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sage_Art:_Gate_of_the_Great_God
20. Chapter 633: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Human_Beast_Mixture_Transformation:_Three-Headed_Wolf
21. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Human_Bullet_Yo-Yo
22. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Parasitic_Giant_Insect_Bug_Bite
23. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sensing_Transmission
24. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Shadow_Clutch_Technique
25. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Tail_Chasing_Fang_Fang_Rotating_Fang
26. Chapter 634: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Scorch_Release:_Halo_Gale_Jet_Black_Arrow_Style_Zero
27. Chapter 641: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Mutually_Instantaneous_Revolving_Technique
28. Chapter 642: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Starch_Syrup_Gun
29. Chapter 646: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Water_Release:_Water_Severing_Wave
30. Chapter 657: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Fire_Release:_Hiding_in_Ash_and_Dust_Technique
31. Chapter 658: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Desert_Layered_Imperial_Funeral_Seal
32. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Spear_Attack_Shining_Horn
33. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sticky_Slime_Field
34. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Wind_Release:_Sand_Scattering_Bullets
35. Chapter 660: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Desert:_Hand
36. Chapter 669: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Evening_Elephant
37. Chapter 672: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Night_Guy (I say both are fine since they require the 8 Gates Released Formation)
38. Chapter 675: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Puppet-Master_Seal
39. Chapter 679: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Hair_Binding_Technique (This was used before, but only in the anime)
40. Chapter 681: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Transcription_Seal:_Izanagi
41. Chapter 682: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sexy_Reverse_Harem_Technique
42. Chapter 684: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Naruto_Uzumaki_Region_Combo





43-52 Questionable:
43. Chapter 606: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Will_Materialisation
44. Chapter 610: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Continuous_Tailed_Beast_Balls
45. Chapter 621: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sage_Art:_Wood_Release:_True_Several_Thousand_Hands
46. Chapter 624: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Flying_Thunder_God_Slash (for only as long as people take "The sheer speed of this technique, is such that even an individual who possesses the Sharingan is unable to react in time." literally)
47. Chapter 626: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Top_Transformed_Buddha
48. Chapter 634: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Wind_Release:_Ultra-Big_Ball_Rasenshuriken
49. Chapter 639: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Mutually_Multiplying_Explosive_Tags (I think this is fine, personally, but could see where others may disagree)
50. Chapter 643: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Six_Red_Yang_Formation
51. Chapter 662: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Wood_Release:_Several_Thousand_Hands (Just because it somehow gives you all 5 chakra natures)
52. Chapter 684: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/All-Killing_Ash_Bones (I believe this is fine as long as we make it clear the bones have to PIERCE you and not just make contact with your body)

53-59 Nope:
53. Chapter 601: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Uchiha_Return
54. Chapter 643: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Wood_Release:_Flowering_Tree
55. Chapter 655: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Big_Ball_Rasenshuriken (http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/52587609.jpg "When thrown it causes a tremendous wind sphere upon detonation that can be seen from several kilometres away,")
56. Chapter 659: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Limbo:_Border_Jail
57. Chapter 664: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Tailed_Beast_Transfer_Technique (This is essentially OOCly giving someone a bijuu made into a jutsu)
58. Chapter 674: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Rinnegan_Shifting_Technique
59. Chapter 681: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Space%E2%80%93Time_Portal

60-74N/A:
60. Chapter 606: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Infinite_Tsukuyomi
61. Chapter 628: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Tenpenchii
62. Chapter 632: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Ten-Tails_Fission
63. Chapter 637: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Ten-Tails_Sealing_Technique
64. Chapter 638: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Six_Paths_Sage_Technique
65. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Truth-Seeking_Ball
66. Chapter 639: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Spiralling_Flash_Super_Round_Dance_Howl_Participate_Formula (Since the jutsu is never actually performed)
67. Chapter 673: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sage_Art:_Lava_Release_Rasenshuriken
68. Chapter 674: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sage_Art:_Magnet_Release_Rasengan
69. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sage_Art:_Storm_Release_Light_Fang
70. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sage_Art:_Yin_Release_Lightning_Dispatch
(All used while in Shinju/SOt6P mode)
71. Chapter 676: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Tailed_Beast_Ball_Rasenshuriken
72. Chapter 677: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/God:_Nativity_of_a_World_of_Trees
73. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Multiple_Tailed_Beast_Ball_Rasenshuriken
74. Chapter 679: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Dimensional_Shifting



I'll be editing this in a little while to give my thoughts on the techniques. Well done, Bocc.

1-36. All fine.
37. This is fine as long as it's understood that the Eight Gates cannot be survived on SL. This ability practically spells death for anyone facing it; death needs to be the equivalent for the user.
38. Eric brings up an interesting point here. If this ability is placed directly on the target's heart, it needs to be done with medical or space-time ninjutsu, not simply by striking their chest. If it's activated on their chest, it needs to be removable by restriking the chest. I vote that this be changed to be applied on the user's body in general.
41. Far too powerful. Void entirely.
43. If this is allowed at all, it needs to be with nerfs similar to the Edo Tensei: While you've materialized a sentient being, you don't regain the chakra spent for it. The sentient being may be immune from aging but can't be completely immortal. Edo Tensei zombies shouldn't be allowed to do this as they're not "alive."
44. This is an ability that should only be usable by the Ten Tails; those below it may be able to shoot several smaller Bijuudama, but they're far weaker and temporarily exhaust the Bijuu.
45. Most Mokuton abilities have become extremely powerful; this is at- or near the apex. If this were done on a smaller scale it'd be acceptable, but not at the magnitude shown unless multiple users expend chakra for it.
46. Ah, hello Hiraishin.< 3
I actually agree with Bocc here, in that this ability is too dangerously powerful. Even the Sharingan cannot react. However, if the Sharingan were able to react in time, the point of the technique'd be gone. Hiraishin is meant to be carefully monitored, and this ability very nearly allows one to go too far with it; I've yet to see any Hiraishin users actually use it, though.
47. Related to 45; acceptable on a smaller scale, but not on the way it's used.
48. This Rasenshuriken is more powerful than some Bijudama. It either needs to have serious drawbacks on the user -- in that they're extremely drained for awhile or something similar -- or be unusable in entirety.
49. The dangers of an Edo Tensei. Edo Tensei are immortal, regenerate, and never run out of chakra; I've always argued that due to the last quality they're too powerful. This ability can't be so simply used by the living, and if an Edo Tensei uses it then they need to be temporarily stunned from the backlash while they regenerate from their own damage.
50. A powerful barrier ability, I think this should be allowed -- if it's not quite this powerful. It also needs to tax the user rapidly.
51. If the "Five elements" nature is taken away, this ability is fine.
52. I'll accept this if, as Bocc said, the ability needs to pierce the enemy instead of touching them. Think of it as extremely hot, corrosive bones.
53. (Uchiha Return) I originally thought this was far too powerful to allow at all. Kamui's explanation of matching chakra to negate and reflect makes sense...Given that one has the Sharingan active and the elements necessary to counteract the ability. There's a mechanic in Naruto known as Counter-Balancing; this could basically be it applied perfectly through a medium. However, with the potency of this ability it should also have some form of cooldown.
54. No. No Bijuu-trees. No Treeju.
55.  Also too powerful; used to indicate how strong Naruto's become. If this is used, it needs to have as a requirement a Bijuu level of chakra, after which one is completely drained and can't fight anymore for awhile.
56. Limbo is easily too powerful to exist; I agree that "NOPE" describes this ability best.
57. This could be used to completely give a Tailed Beast away, but other than that I don't think it should be allowed. Regarding the rules of the Tailed Beasts:
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Tampering with the bijū, meaning: destroying it, altering its affinity, dividing its powers into multiple entities, etc. and any action that changes it from its known canon form is strictly prohibited."
This falls under dividing its power into multiple entities; there are a few canonical things we don't allow simply because they're be too powerful -- the entire point of this conversation -- and this is one of them. Unless you're simply transfering a Tailed Beast inside of you to someone else, this shouldn't be allowed.
58. There's an entire conversation on this. I personally feel that either it's too powerful or requires some heavy nerfs; I think most of the community is leaning towards voiding it in entirety, though.
59.  Jikūkan Ninjutsu in general is extremely easy to abuse. As one of the oldest users on the website (even before Hiraishin) it's always been hard to straddle the line between acceptable and overpowered.
This doesn't straddle the line; it waltzes drunkenly over it and pukes on everyone's feet.
60. Impossible without being the Juubi's Jinchuuriki, which we've decided won't happen on SL.
61.  Impossible without the Juubi, which won't happen.
62. See 61.
63. See 61.
64. This requires one to either have the Juubi or all nine other Bijuu; we've decided this can't happen on SL.
65. See 60.
66. From what I can gather of this technique, one will teleport betwen the various kunai and basically slash through the whole area instantly. As we've not seen it in practice, thouh, there's no point in trying to manage it.
All other abilities require prerequisites we can't achieve on SL, such as being the Jinchuuriki of multiple tailed beasts or the Juubi.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2014, 11:33:35 PM by Darkshinobi »
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Re: Voiding of all new techniques past chapter 600?
« Reply #49 on: July 17, 2014, 02:11:56 AM »

Basically what Trev said. I doubt anyone here is the reincarnated form of Indra and Ashura, if so, how you doin?

Just ban/nerf (I highly suggest ban) the prereqs and we don't have to deal with frkn lists.
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Re: Voiding of all new techniques past chapter 600?
« Reply #50 on: July 17, 2014, 04:48:27 AM »

I say we void anything past the Chuunin Exams. Just cut out the middle man and void Shippuden.

I been preaching that for how long now?
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Re: Voiding of all new techniques past chapter 600?
« Reply #51 on: July 17, 2014, 07:00:25 AM »

I say we void anything past the Chuunin Exams. Just cut out the middle man and void Shippuden.

I been preaching that for how long now?

And it's becoming borderline spam. Thank you very much.
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Re: Voiding of all new techniques past chapter 600?
« Reply #52 on: July 17, 2014, 07:02:39 AM »

I say we void anything past the Chuunin Exams. Just cut out the middle man and void Shippuden.

I been preaching that for how long now?

And it's becoming borderline spam. Thank you very much.

You're welcome.
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Re: Voiding of all new techniques past chapter 600?
« Reply #53 on: July 17, 2014, 07:03:07 AM »

I say we void anything past the Chuunin Exams. Just cut out the middle man and void Shippuden.

I been preaching that for how long now?

And it's becoming borderline spam. Thank you very much.

^ It really is. I get it. That's not what the topics are about if you want to continue to push this make a new topic. As it seems things are going to start getting voided. I'll get the site and players who don't get on the forums by posting a link and asking around some.
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Re: Voiding of all new techniques past chapter 600?
« Reply #54 on: July 17, 2014, 07:20:17 AM »

I would like to think that we don't need to make a void list you know. People should be able to look at a jutsu and say that is is to much for rp. That shouldn't be something that is to hard to do.... I'd 'like' to think.
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Re: Voiding of all new techniques past chapter 600?
« Reply #55 on: July 17, 2014, 07:23:06 AM »

I would like to think that we don't need to make a void list you know. People should be able to look at a jutsu and say that is is to much for rp. That shouldn't be something that is to hard to do.... I'd 'like' to think.


This is SL though. >>
It needs it.
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Re: Voiding of all new techniques past chapter 600?
« Reply #56 on: July 17, 2014, 07:24:46 AM »

I would like to think that we don't need to make a void list you know. People should be able to look at a jutsu and say that is is to much for rp. That shouldn't be something that is to hard to do.... I'd 'like' to think.


This is SL though. >>
It needs it.

That's why I said I would like to think. I still put faith in the people at this site. I know there are still a lot of us out there that are good people and love this site.
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Re: Voiding of all new techniques past chapter 600?
« Reply #57 on: July 17, 2014, 07:26:48 AM »

I would like to think that we don't need to make a void list you know. People should be able to look at a jutsu and say that is is to much for rp. That shouldn't be something that is to hard to do.... I'd 'like' to think.

We do let ourselves go from time to time.


This is SL though. >>
It needs it.

That's why I said I would like to think. I still put faith in the people at this site. I know there are still a lot of us out there that are good people and love this site.
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Re: Voiding of all new techniques past chapter 600?
« Reply #58 on: July 17, 2014, 07:27:43 AM »

I personally believe people should take a more logical step about these things buuuuuut no one listens to the Rinoa. >>;

In fact, I am all for creativity. If you can build something OP on the basis of something in Naruto realm or implement something into Naruto and work out all the kinks, that award goes to you baby.
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Re: Voiding of all new techniques past chapter 600?
« Reply #59 on: July 17, 2014, 05:59:32 PM »

I personally believe people should take a more logical step about these things buuuuuut no one listens to the Rinoa. >>;

In fact, I am all for creativity. If you can build something OP on the basis of something in Naruto realm or implement something into Naruto and work out all the kinks, that award goes to you baby.

Challenge accepted.  :twisted:


I still challenge (believe it or not) that hirashin slash is acceptable.


http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Flying_Thunder_God_Slash


We have seen this attack once, but we have been exposed to it at least once before:

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Flying_Thunder_God:_Second_Step

The two techniques, if you look at it, are very similar in both design and execution. The only difference is that Minato went for the rasengan approach and Tobirama went for the sword in hand approach.

It can be presumed that neither victim was able to react in time, despite having the sharingan. The reasons may be due to the sheer speed of hiraishin, or perhaps the location of the marked kunai. Just my cents on that matter.
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