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[Eric]

As we all know, many former hosts (excluding myself since I did OOC route) claim to retain some of the chakra of the old beast. Now, in that aspect, while the tailed beasts are not allowed to be partitioned into yin-yang, (is that a hard rule this time, or an agreed upon precedence not explicitly put it? I don't recall) is there any rules regarding psuedo jinchurikii who have enough of a tailed beast's chakra to kind of mimick the properties of a jinchurikii?

In that regard, is tailed beast chakra also allowed to be used for seals/enhancements etc by those who are neither summoners nor jinchurikii?

[Bocchiere]

Well I remember in the good ol days (which may or may not have existed) I planned to have all of the bijuu I captured sealed in my Gedo Mazo knock off and then have my Akatsuki members have a seal on them that would allow all of them to tap into the collective power of however many Bijuu we had sealed away. I was told that it would count as dividing the bijuu's power and it would not be allowed.

So it is my understanding that you cannot do much with them, really. If you lose the bijuu the general rule that I know anyway is that you still have its passive ability (Sand Release for Shukaku, Lava for Yonbi, etc) if you had mastered the beast before losing it.

[KayentaMoenkopi]

Well I have 3 characters who are.

2 canon = Ginkaku and Kinkaku

1 kind of canon = Yugito. She really is the only one I have used that power in RP though. She had the blue fire and massive chakra pool.

I don't see how I can really say yeah or nay without it being biased. Typically ex- hosts have been altered in some means. What that is or should be...I don't know.

I kind of view these two subjects as separate issues.

Being altered by the bijuu...hasn't changed the beast, only the host.

Partitioning off chakra of the beast into yin and yang? And parts of its chakra to be used by those who are not hosts or summoners? I don't know.

[Eric]

... So it is my understanding that you cannot do much with them, really. If you lose the bijuu the general rule that I know anyway is that you still have its passive ability (Sand Release for Shukaku, Lava for Yonbi, etc) if you had mastered the beast before losing it.

I do not find this general rule anywhere in the current rules. Something like this should be made an actual rule so that it isn't up in the air. Consider it a chance for us to rethink the whole matter as we have nigh rethought everything else.

[Bocchiere]

It's definitely an unofficial rule. Pretty sure we made it part of a rule somewhere here, if not we should.

[Suishou Koji]

It's not really proven that Sand Release and Lava Release came from Bijuu. It's speculation at best. The ability to spit out ink from your mouth may be the only passive ability that comes from a Bijuu unless you find someone who has Ink Release, if there is such a thing. Oh and blue flame from the Cat.

But having Tailed Beast chakra by those who have not be hosts and/or summoners is sketchy. That would mean that anyone could become a tailess tailed beast which is a major problem when you think about it. Unless they could form tails without a beast sealed inside them...which still is an issue.

[Raifudo Oppa]

It's not really proven that Sand Release and Lava Release came from Bijuu. It's speculation at best. The ability to spit out ink from your mouth may be the only passive ability that comes from a Bijuu unless you find someone who has Ink Release, if there is such a thing. Oh and blue flame from the Cat.

But having Tailed Beast chakra by those who have not be hosts and/or summoners is sketchy. That would mean that anyone could become a tailess tailed beast which is a major problem when you think about it. Unless they could form tails without a beast sealed inside them...which still is an issue.

Considering Rasa has the ability to control golden sand, I'm sure we can speculate Sand isn't a jinchuuriki thing.

I do believe maintaining a bijuu could warrant being able to keep some characteristics of it. Be it visual or something regarding abilities/chakra nature -- whether or not they were OOC or IC-based hosts.

[Bocchiere]

It's not really proven that Sand Release and Lava Release came from Bijuu. It's speculation at best. The ability to spit out ink from your mouth may be the only passive ability that comes from a Bijuu unless you find someone who has Ink Release, if there is such a thing. Oh and blue flame from the Cat.

But having Tailed Beast chakra by those who have not be hosts and/or summoners is sketchy. That would mean that anyone could become a tailess tailed beast which is a major problem when you think about it. Unless they could form tails without a beast sealed inside them...which still is an issue.

Considering Rasa has the ability to control golden sand, I'm sure we can speculate Sand isn't a jinchuuriki thing.

I do believe maintaining a bijuu could warrant being able to keep some characteristics of it. Be it visual or something regarding abilities/chakra nature -- whether or not they were OOC or IC-based hosts.

He just has magnet release. It's gold dust controlled through magnet release. I don't know if canonically anyone else controls sand. I think other Suna nin do in filler

[Raifudo Oppa]

It's not really proven that Sand Release and Lava Release came from Bijuu. It's speculation at best. The ability to spit out ink from your mouth may be the only passive ability that comes from a Bijuu unless you find someone who has Ink Release, if there is such a thing. Oh and blue flame from the Cat.

But having Tailed Beast chakra by those who have not be hosts and/or summoners is sketchy. That would mean that anyone could become a tailess tailed beast which is a major problem when you think about it. Unless they could form tails without a beast sealed inside them...which still is an issue.

Considering Rasa has the ability to control golden sand, I'm sure we can speculate Sand isn't a jinchuuriki thing.

I do believe maintaining a bijuu could warrant being able to keep some characteristics of it. Be it visual or something regarding abilities/chakra nature -- whether or not they were OOC or IC-based hosts.

He just has magnet release. It's gold dust controlled through magnet release. I don't know if canonically anyone else controls sand. I think other Suna nin do in filler

See, I wanted to say it was magnetic but I couldn't remember -- and then I remembered pure gold isn't magnetic, but people also cannot spew out amounts of water from their body exceeding their mass. So, yeah. Thanks for the clear up.

[Warren]

Argueably some nins have it in canon too; if memory serves Kankuro's usual puppet disguise is via sand.

Either way that's how its been on SL already, so unless nobody's unwilling to make themselves a human-octopus hybrid, octopus sage or something then about the only more unique host-only thing is the coral or whatever from Isopu. Ultimately even Matatabi's fire is just different color/intensity than normal sort, which can be achieved via other means.

[Eric]

So are psuedo-jinchurikii going to exist as a thing? Because unless we make some ground rules for them they aren't going to be official entities by any stretch of the imagination.

[Warren]

Unless current hosts go splitting their beasts there's not really anyone who can make them but me, and even that's mainly limited to minor stuff for people who were hosts in the past out of which nobody has yet to express any interest. Bijuu/fight fanatics won't ever consider anybody but the 'main' hosts as 'official' anyway, and other people just don't really care whats 'official' or not.

So there's basically no reason to mess with this.

[Eric]

Unless current hosts go splitting their beasts there's not really anyone who can make them but me, and even that's mainly limited to minor stuff for people who were hosts in the past out of which nobody has yet to express any interest. Bijuu/fight fanatics won't ever consider anybody but the 'main' hosts as 'official' anyway, and other people just don't really care whats 'official' or not.

So there's basically no reason to mess with this.

I disagree:

In the anime, when someone has had tailed beast's chakra sealed into themselves, but not the beast itself, that person is considered a pseudo-jinchūriki (人柱力もどき, jinchūrikimodoki, English TV: Simulated-jinchūriki).[23] Sora and Hōichi are examples of this.

    Naruto Uzumaki received chakra from eight of the tailed beasts without having them truly sealed in him, with the exception of the Nine-Tails. However, Naruto has been called their jinchūriki as well.[24]

The Gold and Silver Brothers were able to gain abilities similar to a jinchūriki by consuming some of the Nine-Tails' flesh. Kumo ninja's subsequent attempts to replicate this by eating the Eight-Tails' tentacles caused only death. The Gold and Silver Brothers' success was only because they are distantly related to the Sage of Six Paths.[25]
In the anime, Kabuto Yakushi used his Body Recreation Technique with some of Kurama's chakra in order to create a clone of Naruto's four-tailed form. Proving too powerful for Kabuto's control, the clone is able to siphon Kurama's chakra to temporarily increase his power.[26]

Source: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Jinch%C5%ABriki

It is stupid easy to become and lose status as a psuedo jinchurikii. It is anyone with enough fo the tailed beast's chakra to begin accessing some of its abiulities. The Gold and Silver brothers are probably the most SL of examples (eating stomach of a tailed beast, what a fetish) but creating a psuedo jinchurikii isn't as hard as it sounds.

The only problem is that keeping track of psuedo jinchurikii would kind of be a pain, since without any rules or regulations on them it's like being a jinchurikii with only temporary reserves of the tailed beasts' chakra (for those who don't use it alot that's not really a bad thing) and in some instances would be preferably to going through the trouble of being a full blown host.

[Warren]

Eating a beast kills you lest you're Hagoromo's relative, and last I recall nobody is gonna agree with copying beast chakra, so that throws kumo brothers and Kabuto routes out the window.

Sora and Naruto routes in turn would require one of the current hosts parting with a chunk of  theirs, which I can't see the current set doing.

So quite the opposite of stupid easy.

[Eric]

Eating a beast kills you lest you're Hagoromo's relative, and last I recall nobody is gonna agree with copying beast chakra, so that throws kumo brothers and Kabuto routes out the window.

Sora and Naruto routes in turn would require one of the current hosts parting with a chunk of  theirs, which I can't see the current set doing.

So quite the opposite of stupid easy.

Perhaps "stupid easy" was a certainly downplaying the task, but the current hosts do not have to necessarily part with the chakra willingly. Another Senju Grand Tree scheme is not exactly far-fetched.

It's less copying beast chakra than taking a portion of it and doing stuff with it.