I'm going ahead and making a new post instead of editing the last one. People posted after me, so it might not show up as new or something.
I want to preface this response with a bit of friendly advice for Jay, from a self proclaimed veteran, about the etiquette of forum zone fighting. First would be to never make unsubstantiated claims as serious as the one you did on Warren. It’s a form of character assassination that I don’t bode well with, and obviously doesn't with others, as seen with Tobias.
Second is that taking an argument public is the last contingency someone should use, and only if you have solid arguments to verify your claims, otherwise it’s just going to be embarrassing if the topic does not go your way.
I am going to try and address each point as Jay brought them up, and will do my best to illustrate my points so they are easily digestible.
Just as Jay began with the mokuton clones, so will I. You misunderstood what I was referencing with the “Future tense” comment previously. I was referring to your regenerative ability being stated to happen over time, not the actions of your clones. You then go on to describe what ‘Directly’ means. If you want to go with the literal definition of directly, then there would have been zero distance between the clone and my puppet, meaning they might as well have been touching bellies. If that were the case, you wouldn’t have been able to deliver that strike to begin with, as you say it happened. Though that is not the case, as I you can see here:
While the Manji leader was correct in his assumption that the Marionettes were not at the same skill as their real life counterparts physically, having the very ground in which they stand act in their favor while simultaneously hindering the opponent would lessen that gap in ability enough for them both to properly evade the masterful, but simplistic forward strikes that were intended to hit each one. To do this, both would simply leap from whatever tree they were currently running on onto an adjacent branch while the forest continued it’s effect from the previous round of trying to mutilate the trio.
I mention that the puppet move to jump away from the trees they were currently running on. ‘Were’ being the key word. I did not say that they continued running until the bunshin appeared, instead saying that they lept away while the forest attempted to hinder the clones, allowing them to avoid the strike. I could also probably go into how your using the Uzumaki sealing technique incorrectly, but I think I’ll save that for later depending on how this goes.
In regards to the forest itself, you imply that I’ve somehow started to god mod and Auto hit you, when that’s just not true. If you were to headbutt the Kusanagi as I swung it at you, would your head not be cut off? If I lept into a fireball would I not be burned? For you to suggest that this forest is somehow undodgeable is ludicrous. You could have opted to instead destroy the trees, or jump above them, or move deep underground. Instead, you chose to jump into them with the idea in your head that you were just fast enough to evade it and that was your mistake. Just because someone is punishing you for making a huge error does not suddenly make the move god mod.
Now we move onto the regeneration. I don’t feel like I need to delve into this too much, considering Warren has already made his ruling, and I did agree to your terms, but I have some things I want to address. First is the idea that you’re somehow immune to cellular deterioration because of immortality. I want to snuff that out right now, because there is no logic behind that. If your immortality is anything like Hidan’s, there is nothing to suggest such immunity. Best case scenario, you become a disembodied brain in a jar because your body couldn't create cells anymore, but your consciousness just refuses to fade away. If your custom immortality somehow also covers how the cells react once they have reached the ‘established’ limit that one's cells can split, then nevermind.
The gravity seals have already been picked apart by Warren and Tobias. It’s incorrect science that only worked in an anime that is entirely separate from Naruto aside from the company that published them. My only real point to make is that the Math you presented, which was debunked by Tobias, would only make your weights about 5000 pounds heavier than Lee’s individual weights in part one.
Though I would like to address your implication that removing your gravity seals makes you 8 times faster than before. For one, this is why I have joined the “No quantification” team for supplementary techniques. Please refer to this manga pannel:
Here is states that curse mark level 2 makes you 10x stronger, and Sasuke’s Curse seal of Heaven is exponentially stronger than Jirobo’s as stated in the canon. Then, if you look at the page for the first gate, it says it increases your physical parameters by 5. Yet, here on SL, we say Sage mode is only a 3x buff and somehow Kurama chakra mode is a 6x buff. So is Jirobo’s curse mark level 2 somehow stronger than Kurama chakra mode? There are so many holes in trying to add multipliers to our characters that it just makes more sense to get rid of them, and make some kind of chart that illustrates where each supplement stands compared to the others.
Let’s move onto Jay’s response about his numerous speed buffs.
Sage Mode, doesn't seem to need a hand seal to activate it. No hand seals have been shown to activate this technique
Well I just don’t think that’s true. Every example I can find of a person entering sage mode, unless being aided by Kurama or Sennika, have needed to at the very least bring their hands together. If you can provide one example of someone entering sage mode without the aforementioned aids, then I’ll concede to that fact.
You then go on to mention your pulse shaping technique, which allows you to activate techniques practically as fast as you can flow your chakra. That, as far as I’m concerned, does not remove the fact that you have to activate each individually seeing as I can’t think of a single example of any person being able to cast that number of high level jutsu simultaneously. The fact remains that you’re still performing 3 different techniques in a timeframe that is numerous times faster than the blink of an eye.
I will go ahead and compound your bit about Itachi and SO6P Naruto as well. Itachi’s sickness can almost entirely be disregarded here I feel like. I believe the entire point of Kirin was to illustrate the speed and power that Susanoo can possess. In fact, I’m pretty sure the Wikia page references the speed of Itachi’s Susanoo as a highly regarded feat. It’s application is nearly instantaneous. I want to also point out that Itachi was able to watch Sasuke jump into the air, raise his hand, form the dragon, watch as the dragon chilled in the air for a bit while zetsu talked, then activated Susanoo as it was coming down. Meanwhile when fighting Naruto, Sasuke did not parade the technique around and immediately activated it, not giving Naruto any time to react. It was a simple twitch of the hand, and BOOM the dragon was hitting Naruto. Just to take a look at the difference in how the same technique was applied in those two battles. It’s dramatically, and thematically different.
Warren already made his piece about the Mokuton. All I want to add is that it's literally all around you, so simply jumping to either side probably isn't going to help. Though we will see how you decide to handle it, and if further discussion needs to happens from there. I will say though, I would much rather have the repost. It just means you don't get the opportunity to make anymore mistakes, especially if you are just going to passively regenerate any damage done in an instant. You're down a resource I'm not.
The accusations of favoritism was already addressed by Tobias and by my initial statement. It’s in horrible taste, and has no proof to justify it. You’re claiming bias because Warren is reviewing the post that I brought to him. You posted accepting my actions as valid, so for you try and backstep is a waste of breath.
The speed my clone was moving was because of Attack Prevention Technique, or Hiding in Surface depending on who you talk too. It mentions allowing you to move around at high speeds, and undetectable.
Finally, I would like to address your mention of Madara. We were using him as an example, because he was literally a god mod character within the story of Naruto. Kishimoto admitted that he didn’t know how he was going to legitimately kill Madara within his own story. I bring him up because he is the only example of a character that has shown capabilities even close to what you’re claiming. Though if we want to talk about dick riding, and mind you this is where I am going to get a little bit less cordial, is you referencing Athos 18 times (an obvious exaggeration). He is by far one of the worst people you could possibly try using as a measuring stick for your physical feats. Not only is his character not even recognized by some people on SL, but nearly everything he claims can in some way argued to be god mod. I for one, am one of those people who refute his asinine claims of destroying mountains with a single punch, or having a fighting style that blatantly says he is better than everyone else, or any other random technique he’s made. I won’t delve into how Gary stue of a character he is, but instead will leave you with this: I, Alek Clark, under the persona of Rusaku Otsutsuki, do not acknowledge Athos as a valid character. So for you to use him as the measuring stick, means literally nothing and will do more harm than good from this point forward.
There will be things I missed. There might be things I didn't address properly. Though at the end of the day it really does not matter. Warren made his ruling, and Jay made a comment about making the repost, so there really ins't anything else to argue. Once he makes his repost, I will decide if anymore discussion needs to take place.