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Roleplay => Village Square => Topic started by: Ѕhadow on January 26, 2015, 10:27:18 PM
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Now I have no ill feeling for Isa. I actually think he's an okay guy just from talking to him the times I have. With that being said...
He needs to be stripped of his bijuu. This is not something he has done once or twice, but several times and still continues to do such to this day. Months back we've had issues with his inactivity.
He's dodged it a lot, but is now also denying Ichiro cause his previous fights have showed his rp flaws. He just doesn't seem to care at all and keeps the beast for an 'ego boost' so to speak. He doesn't contribute to rp in anyway in public. (I checked everywhere) thus leading to him not posting as bijuu rules state he has to do.
This is the start of the strip process of Isaribi. You may comment here agreeing or disagreeing this thread. However I doubt you'll find anything in favor of him.
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Agreed.
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I also agree with this obviously, and for reference here is his denial of my challenge
From: Isaribi offline
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Sent: 2015-01-26 16:09:59
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I refuse. You lost because of a fault which was blatantly obvious, and you god-modded throughout. I don't view you as a contest.
---Original Message from Hyuuga, Ichiro(2015-01-25 20:03:11)---
I'd like to challenge you for the three tails once again. It having been well over the three months since our last fight.
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Agreed I was next and this is what he said to me
From: Isaribi offline
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Sent: 2015-01-26 16:12:41
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You've changed your name and your character completely. I now refuse this fight because there is no way, through RP, you've acquired everything you have to the extant at which you have it. Real RPers, those who deserve to be jinchuuriki, earn the their stuff through RP; reborns are meaningless to RP.
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Clearly he is inactive. Xia needs to be informed. It is his job to handle this.
Like I said on the other thread you can't give the inactive hosts beast to the inactive kage.
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Whoever gets it Needs to inherit the list because I was next in line. So I expect to be next in line for the next one who gets it
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Whatever happened to The Jincs controlling the dispersion of stripped Biju? Though i'm not fully aware of Xia's activity problems, If he is uber inactive as proposed then I don't see why we would bounce it around to inactive individuals,
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Whoever gets it Needs to inherit the list because I was next in line. So I expect to be next in line for the next one who gets it
If he gets stripped then the wait list is void. They have a week to find a person then 2 weeks grace. You can challenge before then, but they don't have to acknowledge it until after the grace is up. And only after the grace is up will they have to take your challenge. So if you challenge them before anyone the second their grace is up then you'll be first again. ~
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Whatever happened to The Jincs controlling the dispersion of stripped Biju? Though i'm not fully aware of Xia's activity problems, If he is uber inactive as proposed then I don't see why we would bounce it around to inactive individuals,
We're trying to be fair to those involved with the inactive host. Isa is a Kiri nin so it'd make sense to go to Kiri. So instead of Xia I'd say Dart would be next in line to handle it.
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True, but dart is also already in the process of handling the two tails, on top of his own, so that locks in the two and three tails to be floating in space until things are decided lol.
Unless the two tails has finally ended up somewhere, I haven't checked around lately
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Thank you. I will be sure to do that.
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Actually, Xia has been posting semi frequently lately. Far from inactive.
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Actually, Xia has been posting semi frequently lately. Far from inactive.
Has he? I haven't seen where at.
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First kiri to depart for Chusaki's party, then traveling at zones, then suna for the party itself and now some other chaos.
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First kiri to depart for Chusaki's party, then traveling at zones, then suna for the party itself and now some other chaos.
Getting on for 5 mins to post and being active are two vastly different things. Still if he can find a host or whatnot for Isa's beast in a week then good to go.
So it's all agreed to strip Isa as of now? Of course this will be kept open.
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Ace brought to my attention a rule that I think would be interesting to implement, which is that the first challenger in line gets the beast if the host is stripped due to inactivity, I mean we're forced to lose due to inactivity in our biju fights, so I don't see why we couldn't implement this rule, as a challenger it would be more than tedious to have be put on the list, wait for forever, they get stripped and it gets passed on to someone else, and then you have to wait two more weeks for anything to go down.
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Ace brought to my attention a rule that I think would be interesting to implement, which is that the first challenger in line gets the beast if the host is stripped due to inactivity, I mean we're forced to lose due to inactivity in our biju fights, so I don't see why we couldn't implement this rule, as a challenger it would be more than tedious to have be put on the list, wait for forever, they get stripped and it gets passed on to someone else, and then you have to wait two more weeks for anything to go down.
I'm down with this.
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Yeah see that's what I was saying, it seems like a perfectly reasonable rule
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Oh god it's happening already >_> Gonna give it to Xia, he's gonna take his sweet time finding someone, probably won't do it until someone bitches at him to do it, then they are gonna actually go to seal it which will take weeks upon weeks, then the grace period, when that is up the host is going to lag and the cycle we have all seen is going to continue.
I can assure you of that exact process as I've witnessed it in full. I had to threaten stripping them, I had to attack their village, I had to call out every single member involved just to make any progress, then and only then was a fight allowed, after weeks of arguments and forum battles.
Now to add something constructive: My vote goes, if Isaribi is indeed stripped by the end of this topic, then Kiri must decide a champion to take on and fight the challengers, within a week, or the Bijuu is stripped completely, Dart being excluded because of reasons mentioned above.
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Well Riku how do you feel about this new rule that I have proposed and Shadow has supported?
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Seems legit, though dealing with who is actually first on the list with Isa will prove difficult. Considering he blatantly ignores challenges.
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ok this is really sweet but I am against your hasty posting with inaccurate information about jacking the responsibility to handle this away from the person who is responsible for it.
1] Xia is the Mizukage, head of Kiri and he and his village of elders will be responsible for dealing with their inactive host. I believe that includes Dart, Gitsune, Mioku and the whole lot.
2] once they demonstrate an inability to take care of their own business then everyone else who is a host can gather to decide what to do with it.
3] in the meantime...Xia is not inactive and you all need to relax and allow this issue to be handled properly. There are rules already in place to take care of this situation and they will do so properly, do not fear.
I will restate the facts of the issue for you all..
Xia and Kiri will handle Isaribi's inactivity.
If and when they demonstrate they fail at doing their job then the current hosts will gather to decide what to do.
that is all.
"Getting on for 5 mins to post and being active are two vastly different things. Still if he can find a host or whatnot for Isa's beast in a week then good to go."
We've already moved past that.
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Is it a hobby of yours to always try and get the last word? I mean seriously, we offer solid ideas based on well known facts and you come over here boasting some power that should not have been redistributed, and shut us all down. This isn't the first instance I have seen this, frankly it's the third or fourth since I've been back.
You come here with sly underhanded insults and passive aggressive retorts that do nothing for this community but negate what this is, a community.
If someone like you can just waltz in and say whatever they want and it is the law then something is seriously wrong, and already have we lost the democracy of this forum.
That is all.
(Obviously pointed at Kayenta, shadow posted before me >_>)
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Like said if Xia doesn't do the job in one week then we, the community, will decide.
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The impatience of yours in a topic that was only started today is unfortunate.
The rules will be followed here and Kiri and Xia will be given their right to deal with this.
If and when they cannot do so then the hosts will gather to handle it.
That is exactly what I am talking about. My impatience is unfortunate? Being as I would rather not get banned for calling you out of your name, again, I am going to resign myself to a few this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuKsnsrQxVo
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Also the whole 'Kayenta power' thing. She is a mod to make sure rules are followed and that's it. She keeps the boards clean and participates in topics with her opinion. She is in no way power hungry or abusing it. If she closes a topic because she disagrees with it then yes that would be power abusing, but she doesn't. She says keep things civil, be patient, etc. She may seem like 'hey yo I'm the boss' she's just reiterating the rules a lot to us.
Keep this in mind. She's another player. What she says is not law. At all. Point blank. Community over any one person. Everyone knows this. She does her mod job perfectly fine. Anything outside of keeping the topics clean and on topic, participating, and organizing the threads is her own personal opinion.
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First kiri to depart for Chusaki's party, then traveling at zones, then suna for the party itself and now some other chaos.
This. Xia's active, brah.
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(http://church.stpeterlcms.org/files/styles/large/public/sermons//image/pour%20on%20the%20salt.jpg)
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I don't see anulything wrong with Xia choosing a new host if it comes to that. I seriously don't see this benefitting anyone but Bocch, it doesn't take much to figure that out. In short, Kira is making the shinigami lie.
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I have messaged Isa about this unfortunate topic.
Also, if he were to be stripped, then it will be Kirigakure's decision as to what happens to the beast.
Second, the challenger list will start fresh with the new host (should it happen).
Third, and completely irrelevant to this thread, the Nibi's host has been decided and we are waiting for RP the sealing. As soon as the Kiri team in Suna gets back, it will be done.
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I don't see anulything wrong with Xia choosing a new host if it comes to that. I seriously don't see this benefitting anyone but Bocch, it doesn't take much to figure that out. In short, Kira is making the shinigami lie.
Bro stop trolling. Bocc ain't even in the game anymore.
BACK ON TOPIC PEOPLE.
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First kiri to depart for Chusaki's party, then traveling at zones, then suna for the party itself and now some other chaos.
This. Xia's active, brah.
Not to mention its not exactly his fault the suna RP is attractive enough to have garnered the attention of almost a dozen people, so a post round might take a day or so.
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So it seems no one is against Isa getting his beast stripped? .-.
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Give the man a chance.
Most seem to be in agreement, and the *rules* state just that. =)
Not sure what all of this hoopla is about now. :P
Ace brought to my attention a rule that I think would be interesting to implement, which is that the first challenger in line gets the beast if the host is stripped due to inactivity, I mean we're forced to lose due to inactivity in our biju fights, so I don't see why we couldn't implement this rule, as a challenger it would be more than tedious to have be put on the list, wait for forever, they get stripped and it gets passed on to someone else, and then you have to wait two more weeks for anything to go down.
That should only pertain to inactivity. In this case, as I have suggested first, give the man a chance. =)
Why conversations that have no bearing at the current moment are discussed, no idea, seeing as how it is then repeated 10 more times....
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I was trying to make the statement look cool by putting the word "Bocch" and "Kira" in there. >> Never mind.
And yeah, Kiri should have the rights to choose the new host.
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Give the man a chance.
Most seem to be in agreement, and the *rules* state just that. =)
Not sure what all of this hoopla is about now. :P
I keep the topic open about 3-5-7 days before closing it and then calling the beast stripped. If he doesn't get on during that time frame then it just solidifies the fact that he should be stripped.
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Okay guys, this is getting ridiculous.
I am active. I've been getting online relatively frequently, and I've been talking in the secret halls of Kiri concerning the Nibi. Right now, I am planning an RP that I've been having trouble getting together due to much of Kiri being locked in various places.
Further, there was the issue with Sabu coming to Kiri, in which I was involved, and I've still been waiting on what I, as a player, am supposed to do with that.
Next, no. I have the right as a Jinchuuriki to deny challenges if I feel necessary. I denied Ichirou because his first challenge was nothing but a problem, and when I called a mod, they agreed the problem was not on my end and was absurd. I denied Masana (Machina) because I feel as if her character is OP considering her recent change of character, and as such, I feel she is a god-modder. I've accepted several other challenges in the interim without issues.
Ichirou, Masane... get your stuff together if you want to challenge me. Right now, you are both NEW players with OP characters that only hardly make coherent sense. I will refuse your challenges until this problem is resolved. This is a fair request, especially from me; I've been here for nearly a decade and I've earned everything I have through RP.
Madara, if you want me to be stripped you'll have to defeat me. I'm present and I respond to my messages, and I am active (though, I'll admit I've been slow in RP recently because a) school b) all the people I usually RP with are locked up elsewhere.)
Be patient, don't be shady. I literally denied the challenges of Ichirou and Masane this morning (proof I've been on SL, people?) and have been in school all day. Like, seriously guys, y'all work fast.
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The issue is that I believe it was decided there is no denying challengers anymore. You must fight everyone who challenges and not liking their rp style will likely not be agreed to be a reason not to.
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Okay guys, this is getting ridiculous.
I am active. I've been getting online relatively frequently, and I've been talking in the secret halls of Kiri concerning the Nibi. Right now, I am planning an RP that I've been having trouble getting together due to much of Kiri being locked in various places.
Further, there was the issue with Sabu coming to Kiri, in which I was involved, and I've still been waiting on what I, as a player, am supposed to do with that.
Next, no. I have the right as a Jinchuuriki to deny challenges if I feel necessary. I denied Ichirou because his first challenge was nothing but a problem, and when I called a mod, they agreed the problem was not on my end and was absurd. I denied Masana (Machina) because I feel as if her character is OP considering her recent change of character, and as such, I feel she is a god-modder. I've accepted several other challenges in the interim without issues.
Ichirou, Masane... get your stuff together if you want to challenge me. Right now, you are both NEW players with OP characters that only hardly make coherent sense. I will refuse your challenges until this problem is resolved. This is a fair request, especially from me; I've been here for nearly a decade and I've earned everything I have through RP.
Madara, if you want me to be stripped you'll have to defeat me. I'm present and I respond to my messages, and I am active (though, I'll admit I've been slow in RP recently because a) school b) all the people I usually RP with are locked up elsewhere.)
Be patient, don't be shady. I literally denied the challenges of Ichirou and Masane this morning (proof I've been on SL, people?) and have been in school all day. Like, seriously guys, y'all work fast.
Well I was getting ready to post, but if the messages were today, then what reason do I have to deny that being RP locked, which I almost forgot about the Sabu incident, caused a back drop in RP activity because originally planning for the festival was stopped. I haven't been able to get back to Kiri either as I am currently in Suna from the new Kazekage robing ceremony.
I haven't seen the claims of g-mod or self proclaimed stuff from resetting characters and all this junk, so don't blame me if I haven't had the time to care with a 4 month baby to take care of. There will be talk on this matter though
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Okay guys, this is getting ridiculous.
I am active. I've been getting online relatively frequently, and I've been talking in the secret halls of Kiri concerning the Nibi. Right now, I am planning an RP that I've been having trouble getting together due to much of Kiri being locked in various places.
Further, there was the issue with Sabu coming to Kiri, in which I was involved, and I've still been waiting on what I, as a player, am supposed to do with that.
Next, no. I have the right as a Jinchuuriki to deny challenges if I feel necessary. I denied Ichirou because his first challenge was nothing but a problem, and when I called a mod, they agreed the problem was not on my end and was absurd. I denied Masana (Machina) because I feel as if her character is OP considering her recent change of character, and as such, I feel she is a god-modder. I've accepted several other challenges in the interim without issues.
Ichirou, Masane... get your stuff together if you want to challenge me. Right now, you are both NEW players with OP characters that only hardly make coherent sense. I will refuse your challenges until this problem is resolved. This is a fair request, especially from me; I've been here for nearly a decade and I've earned everything I have through RP.
Madara, if you want me to be stripped you'll have to defeat me. I'm present and I respond to my messages, and I am active (though, I'll admit I've been slow in RP recently because a) school b) all the people I usually RP with are locked up elsewhere.)
Be patient, don't be shady. I literally denied the challenges of Ichirou and Masane this morning (proof I've been on SL, people?) and have been in school all day. Like, seriously guys, y'all work fast.
Regardless of IRL reason you gave no warning of such things to us and YOU KNOW THE RULES. You've had the beast for months. You've been in this position before. Talking amongst your clan members is not being active and does not fill the rule of rp'ing once a week or once 2 weeks. The last time you rp'ed was about 15 days ago past both limits we've had in which you'd be stripped. Once again this is not the first time you have ignored the rules that we have planted upon every single host. Somehow you have evaded it several times and I think it's time you either take it serious or just accept the fact that you're not a fit host. I want you to prove me wrong and actually follow the rules, but so far you haven't. This isn't personal and I don't want you to take it and make it personal. Pure SL rp wise you are not a good host.
As for the denying challenges I'm not full detailed in it.
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ANYTHING REGARDING WHY HE DENIED ICHI OR MASANE PLEASE POST HERE; http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,8341.0.html
THIS CURRENT THREAD IS HIS RP INACTIVITY.
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The issue is that I believe it was decided there is no denying challengers anymore. You must fight everyone who challenges and not liking their rp style will likely not be agreed to be a reason not to.
When was I going to be informed? Also, when was my vote on this matter going to be taken?
And Madara, I've been in this position WRONGLY several times. You don't know what is going on. Read what Xia just said.
Once Sabu's thing fell through, the big RP we had planned had to be halted, and then everyone left Kiri on their own RPs. I'm sorry, but I can only RP by myself so many times before I look odd. I am planning something soon, and you can crash it if you really have a problem. It isn't MY fault that RP in Kiri has been tied up because people had to leave in several directions. I even kept trying to ask if I could go to Suna, but was told other people ought to go in my stead.
EDIT; if it makes you happy, I can certainly post a small RP by myself. But I can't post anything big until people come back from all the other stuff they've got going on. Sorry, but I don't see me just roaming Kirigakure as being particularly pertinent to anything, whereas whenever something big happens I'm always one of the first to jump in on it.
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Is anyone seeing that the only argument for inactivity they have to offer is that their home village is 'busy'? As far as I am aware there is an entire ninja world out there to explore, just because you resign yourself to only Rp'ing with your clan mates does not justify not rp'ing anywhere else.
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The issue is that I believe it was decided there is no denying challengers anymore. You must fight everyone who challenges and not liking their rp style will likely not be agreed to be a reason not to.
When was I going to be informed? Also, when was my vote on this matter going to be taken?
And Madara, I've been in this position WRONGLY several times. You don't know what is going on. Read what Xia just said.
Once Sabu's thing fell through, the big RP we had planned had to be halted, and then everyone left Kiri on their own RPs. I'm sorry, but I can only RP by myself so many times before I look odd. I am planning something soon, and you can crash it if you really have a problem. It isn't MY fault that RP in Kiri has been tied up because people had to leave in several directions. I even kept trying to ask if I could go to Suna, but was told other people ought to go in my stead.
We are not your babysitter. Everything you need to know or want to know is here to view. If you don't know it's because you didn't put in time to get to know it. Everyone has a chance to put in their input. Still do. So if you want a vote. Maybe check the forums?
"RP by myself so many times before I look odd" Not a valid excuse. I know several people who rp by themselves a lot. Honestly. "I'll look odd" .-. No.
It may not be your fault, but that does not mean you are like 'well since the rp fell through now I don't have to post since there's no one to post with' You could have made NPCS to post with. We don't care. Just post. Be active. Use the bijuu that you have. Why have it if you don't use it?
You say you're not informed or had a vote, etc. It's because you're not interested in the community at all or don't have the time. I understand real life and such. I gave my bijuu away so I wouldn't hoard it from others. Take 20 mins out of your day just to check things. That's all you need.
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I sent you a link to the forum topic but it was already locked, remember? It was pretty much unanimous decision that there is no denying of challengers so if you and xia and dart all get on now to disagree with it itd be something like three against seven or eight. We could take another poll and encourage everyone to speak in it but I don't think that would go in your favor considering the last one.
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Is anyone seeing that the only argument for inactivity they have to offer is that their home village is 'busy'? As far as I am aware there is an entire ninja world out there to explore, just because you resign yourself to only Rp'ing with your clan mates does not justify not rp'ing anywhere else.
I, as Isaribi, have been here for nearly a decade. I'm a jinchuuriki, who is constantly told to stay in Kiri by people above me, or people concerned for my safety. Currently, I'm one of a small handful of RPers currently in Kiri. I can certainly post roaming around the village, but to leave the village would be to break orders, and therefore to break the character of Isaribi. Don't try to character-control me; I RP in Kiri, that is my character, and whenever Kirigakure tells me to go elsewhere I do.
And all that information may be here, but I am an RPer on Shinobilegends.com. Not this forum. This forum isn't the community, SL is. If something is happening that concerns me, I ought to be informed. This forum is vast, and I don't check it unless informed to do so.
I DO RP BY MYSELF ALOT. And I'm honestly tired of it.
Regardless of all this, I've been on SL today. I have an RP planned; perhaps I'll go post a mini-RP now to shut you up.
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I sent you a link to the forum topic but it was already locked, remember? It was pretty much unanimous decision that there is no denying of challengers so if you and xia and dart all get on now to disagree with it itd be something like three against seven or eight. We could take another poll and encourage everyone to speak in it but I don't think that would go in your favor considering the last one.
I'm confused. There are nine jinchuuriki, ergo nine votes who matter. And we weren't even afforded the opportunity to even speak on the matter.
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The issue is that I believe it was decided there is no denying challengers anymore. You must fight everyone who challenges and not liking their rp style will likely not be agreed to be a reason not to.
When was I going to be informed? Also, when was my vote on this matter going to be taken?
And Madara, I've been in this position WRONGLY several times. You don't know what is going on. Read what Xia just said.
Once Sabu's thing fell through, the big RP we had planned had to be halted, and then everyone left Kiri on their own RPs. I'm sorry, but I can only RP by myself so many times before I look odd. I am planning something soon, and you can crash it if you really have a problem. It isn't MY fault that RP in Kiri has been tied up because people had to leave in several directions. I even kept trying to ask if I could go to Suna, but was told other people ought to go in my stead.
We are not your babysitter. Everything you need to know or want to know is here to view. If you don't know it's because you didn't put in time to get to know it. Everyone has a chance to put in their input. Still do. So if you want a vote. Maybe check the forums?
"RP by myself so many times before I look odd" Not a valid excuse. I know several people who rp by themselves a lot. Honestly. "I'll look odd" .-. No.
It may not be your fault, but that does not mean you are like 'well since the rp fell through now I don't have to post since there's no one to post with' You could have made NPCS to post with. We don't care. Just post. Be active. Use the bijuu that you have. Why have it if you don't use it?
You say you're not informed or had a vote, etc. It's because you're not interested in the community at all or don't have the time. I understand real life and such. I gave my bijuu away so I wouldn't hoard it from others. Take 20 mins out of your day just to check things. That's all you need.
Did you read any of this?...
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Is anyone seeing that the only argument for inactivity they have to offer is that their home village is 'busy'? As far as I am aware there is an entire ninja world out there to explore, just because you resign yourself to only Rp'ing with your clan mates does not justify not rp'ing anywhere else.
I, as Isaribi, have been here for nearly a decade. I'm a jinchuuriki, who is constantly told to stay in Kiri by people above me, or people concerned for my safety. Currently, I'm one of a small handful of RPers currently in Kiri. I can certainly post roaming around the village, but to leave the village would be to break orders, and therefore to break the character of Isaribi. Don't try to character-control me; I RP in Kiri, that is my character, and whenever Kirigakure tells me to go elsewhere I do.
And all that information may be here, but I am an RPer on Shinobilegends.com. Not this forum. This forum isn't the community, SL is. If something is happening that concerns me, I ought to be informed. This forum is vast, and I don't check it unless informed to do so.
I DO RP BY MYSELF ALOT. And I'm honestly tired of it.
Regardless of all this, I've been on SL today. I have an RP planned; perhaps I'll go post a mini-RP now to shut you up.
No need to say how long you've been on here. We're all old. Been on here since Ann owned it. Woot~
Dude I don't care if you rp leaving your home and helping and old lady across the street every sunday. I never said you had to leave. Even if you go outside the village walls to go into meditation with 10000 kiri guards that's accepted just participate.
The forums are where the sl community debates such things. The SL site had no place to hold such things so this forum is a must to look at every now and then. If you have no one to rp with perhaps change to a new village? Be active to make new friends? I have no clue. I just know the rules.
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I sent you a link to the forum topic but it was already locked, remember? It was pretty much unanimous decision that there is no denying of challengers so if you and xia and dart all get on now to disagree with it itd be something like three against seven or eight. We could take another poll and encourage everyone to speak in it but I don't think that would go in your favor considering the last one.
I'm confused. There are nine jinchuuriki, ergo nine votes who matter. And we weren't even afforded the opportunity to even speak on the matter.
Haha wow. Good luck with that.
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I sent you a link to the forum topic but it was already locked, remember? It was pretty much unanimous decision that there is no denying of challengers so if you and xia and dart all get on now to disagree with it itd be something like three against seven or eight. We could take another poll and encourage everyone to speak in it but I don't think that would go in your favor considering the last one.
I'm confused. There are nine jinchuuriki, ergo nine votes who matter. And we weren't even afforded the opportunity to even speak on the matter.
I was there, Bocc was, I'm sure eric saw it. Ichi saw it, Warren did. That's like 3/4 of the hosts right there.
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I sent you a link to the forum topic but it was already locked, remember? It was pretty much unanimous decision that there is no denying of challengers so if you and xia and dart all get on now to disagree with it itd be something like three against seven or eight. We could take another poll and encourage everyone to speak in it but I don't think that would go in your favor considering the last one.
I'm confused. There are nine jinchuuriki, ergo nine votes who matter. And we weren't even afforded the opportunity to even speak on the matter.
I was there, Bocc was, I'm sure eric saw it. Ichi saw it, Warren did. That's like 3/4 of the hosts right there.
Whoa. Hey. I was there too.
Am I personally against it? Well yes.
But my jinc job is to abide by the community setting so I'm being to accept all challenges.
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I sent you a link to the forum topic but it was already locked, remember? It was pretty much unanimous decision that there is no denying of challengers so if you and xia and dart all get on now to disagree with it itd be something like three against seven or eight. We could take another poll and encourage everyone to speak in it but I don't think that would go in your favor considering the last one.
I'm confused. There are nine jinchuuriki, ergo nine votes who matter. And we weren't even afforded the opportunity to even speak on the matter.
I was there, Bocc was, I'm sure eric saw it. Ichi saw it, Warren did. That's like 3/4 of the hosts right there.
Whoa. Hey. I was there too.
Am I personally against it? Well yes.
But my jinc job is to abide by the community setting so I'm being to accept all challenges.
^Dart was there too! D: Another Kiri Member and host!
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I have messaged Isa about this unfortunate topic.
Also, if he were to be stripped, then it will be Kirigakure's decision as to what happens to the beast.
Second, the challenger list will start fresh with the new host (should it happen).
Third, and completely irrelevant to this thread, the Nibi's host has been decided and we are waiting for RP the sealing. As soon as the Kiri team in Suna gets back, it will be done.
So how would I go about getting on the list for the Nibi Dart?
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I have messaged Isa about this unfortunate topic.
Also, if he were to be stripped, then it will be Kirigakure's decision as to what happens to the beast.
Second, the challenger list will start fresh with the new host (should it happen).
Third, and completely irrelevant to this thread, the Nibi's host has been decided and we are waiting for RP the sealing. As soon as the Kiri team in Suna gets back, it will be done.
So how would I go about getting on the list for the Nibi Dart?
Find out the host and wait two weeks for the grace to end. << As always.
Mail him on SL. Not interrupting this thread please.
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^ Take that to pm's please.
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From what i've been told Isaribi's inactivity has been a problem multiple times, there are simple solutions to Rp activity problems I.e rp'ing with yourself or NPC's or whatever, and if that not has been met multiple times then I don't see why this conversation is being had, If we have specific qualifications that have to be met by the Hosts less they risk getting stripped, then they should be stripped whenever the rules are broken?
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This may seem off-topic, but I was wondering what exactly were Isa's challenge preferences, challenger list, etc. I couldn't find a topic or post by him anywhere, or I might not have looked hard enough.
But from the sound of this topic, he might prefer an actual IC Bijuu hunt, rather than an official arena match at the discretion of it being either IC or OOC. I'm also asking this so I can issue a challenge to him and test whether or not he actually denies any and all "challenges" like everyone is stating.
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No he has a challenger list in his Bio, and when he and I fought previously 3 months ago he accepted it as a challenge when I asked him to, he just hasn't done anything that the other hosts have on the forum.
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The proper thing to do is get the full story here. And compiling it...
Isa didn't post due to these reasons:
School
An RP in Kiri wasn't started at all.
His higher up's told him not to leave Kiri
He's been planning a big rp
Now I'm dissecting these all at once. Take 5 mins to write a 2 post rp adn at least let us know if you're going to be inactive.
I stripped Rinn, Zenaku was stripped, etc. Isa is no exception. It's been 14 days, 7 days, more than that at other times. Adn now he's promising an RP just to shut me up. I'm still pushing for the strip.
Added: Kage he doesn't go on the forums enough to have that up. He does want IC deathmatch. Guaranteed.
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Guys, let's both keep this civil and on topic. First of all, I have been dealing with my own tailed beast issues, so until this thing blew up after I woke up from my nap, I haven't had a chance to look over this.
Second of all, the matter of stripping for inactivity is at this point subjective. The hosts actually going out and doing their turns in public has been laxly controlled for some time now (I at least have not been stalking the new jinchs to see if they have been keeping up) and even if it were strictly enforced, as stated, the character of Isa is not permitted to just up and leave the village whenever.
Granted, he can still post in the village board, and as much as that makes him feel awkward, it is an option. Kiri purposely handicapping one of their own jinchurikii when they know that he needs to post in relative public in order to be considered active by watchdogs (who get sniffy only when called in from what I've observed) is part of the reason Isa is in this mess. Biju fights take place in challenge format, not all out RP brawls like they used to.
There is no reason for Kiri to confine the host, especially since they feel he is safe enough to stay in the village relatively alone while there is still an organization out there that, IC-wise, is capable of trying to snatch him up while everyone is gone. This is what I have gathered from what sides of the story have been presented.
It was never edited into the official rules page, like many other alterations to the biju rules that have taken place in the past three or so months, that challengers cannot deny challenges. That whole thing with Bocc and Dart and Masane should have been more than enough coverage for Isa to have picked up on that as far as I'm concerned.
Seniority is part of the reason there is a clash of interests here. Having been here as long as you have, you should pretty much know how it works by now, and whether you decide to put any voice or effort into the forums regularly is your business, whether it be pure time constraints or preference.
Stripping Isa of the tailed beast and then having the very village helped handicap him in the first place decide where it goes next is, in my opinion, absurd. Are you going to smack the donkey for being guided to the cliff, and grant the rider a chance to drive another donkey to the same cliff, only for both to fall?
I am not saying it's not Isa's fault, but Kiri is not exactly scot free in this either based on Isa's defense.
As an added bit because of the new replies, the challenge list, I believe, is supposed to be inherited by the new host. I don't recall there being any thread to the contrary about that.
*Dat grammar
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Like Ichi said: Why is this even being discussed? He violated the rules and should be stripped. I'm beginning to agree with Eric on having the beast removed. It is only causing issues. People dont follow the rules and threads like this get made getting us no where. Follow the dang rules and strip it from him
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I definitely agree with MadaShadow on this. Especially considering there was no pre-warning to the activity from what i've been told. I don't think that giving an Rp at this point should solve the problem, if the rules have already been busted up in the past (once again, multiple times from what I have been told) then he shouldn't have it anymore. It's just what comes with being a host. I believe there was even a spell between my last fight with him and this new challenge where he was out for an overage of days.
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Isa's computer died. But he says he will accept their challenges under the stipulation that they are actual IC hunts with real IC consequences.
I.e. if you die in the match, you die in the SL RP world. And you have to actually work on getting the knowledge he is the jinchūriki of Isobu. And you have to RP acquiring the information, you cannot just "claim" to knkw because it's listed elsewhere.
Also, @Eric, he prefers the IC hunt than a challenge brawl with his preferences so, technically, being "confined" to home is "safer" for him.
Either way, the message has been sent and the issue resolved. As soon as his computer gets a charge, he'll make a public posting.
So: Ichirou and Masane get their challenges. Shādow gets his activity.
Topic finished. Lock, please?
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AHAHA! That is exactly what I said you guys were gonna do, wait until shit hits the fan and try to weasel out of it by offering some sort of outing that benefits yourselves.
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Isa's computer died. But he says he will accept their challenges under the stipulation that they are actual IC hunts with real IC consequences.
I.e. if you die in the match, you die in the SL RP world. And you have to actually work on getting the knowledge he is the jinchūriki of Isobu. And you have to RP acquiring the information, you cannot just "claim" to knkw because it's listed elsewhere.
Also, @Eric, he prefers the IC hunt than a challenge brawl with his preferences so, technically, being "confined" to home is "safer" for him.
Either way, the message has been sent and the issue resolved. As soon as his computer gets a charge, he'll make a public posting.
So: Ichirou and Masane get their challenges. Shādow gets his activity.
Topic finished. Lock, please?
No, no lock. He broke the rules if the yes outweighs the no he will be stripped by community vote. He had enough chances where others have only had one.
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Isa's computer died. But he says he will accept their challenges under the stipulation that they are actual IC hunts with real IC consequences.
I.e. if you die in the match, you die in the SL RP world. And you have to actually work on getting the knowledge he is the jinchūriki of Isobu. And you have to RP acquiring the information, you cannot just "claim" to knkw because it's listed elsewhere.
Also, @Eric, he prefers the IC hunt than a challenge brawl with his preferences so, technically, being "confined" to home is "safer" for him.
Either way, the message has been sent and the issue resolved. As soon as his computer gets a charge, he'll make a public posting.
So: Ichirou and Masane get their challenges. Shādow gets his activity.
Topic finished. Lock, please?
Not really. The host is supposed to give the challenger the opportunity for a 1v1 (or a 2v2, whatever the specss on his challenge page specify). A all-out village brawl is not standard challenge procedure under any circumstances.
2] ºDetermine the Nature of the Challengeº
The host and the challenger, and ONLY the host and challenger, determine the nature of the challenge. BOTH decide if the match will be an IC Challenge or an OOC Challenge. This means that if an IC Challenge is chosen, the challenger has to RP learning the host’s identity and location and maneuvers him into a Match. This does not mean that the RP is used as a means for the Host to forever avoid having to face his challenger. The host must make it possible for the challenger to complete the terms of the RP event. This is not the battle part. You are going to face off with each other. You are just being creative about it.
If the OOC Challenge is chosen, then no RP concerning the challenge is performed. The details are agreed upon and the Match takes place.
As I stated, there are no huge IC village brawls under this challenge system, unless the host specifically allows something like 4v4 and the challenger agrees to it. Even then, keeping Isa in Kiri and sending out all of his most capable supporters is, dare I say it, stupid, even if all of his supporters could rush back at the speed of hiraishin, if the policy is to keep him safe in the confines of the village and its forces.
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Also double posting.
Remember the last time someone wanted to go for a bijuu in Kiri? I do. It was a disaster worse than this. You guys make it impossible to get bijuu from you. I say do it on here at least under strict regulation instead of having another out of hand rp happen.
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Isa's computer died. But he says he will accept their challenges under the stipulation that they are actual IC hunts with real IC consequences.
I.e. if you die in the match, you die in the SL RP world. And you have to actually work on getting the knowledge he is the jinchūriki of Isobu. And you have to RP acquiring the information, you cannot just "claim" to knkw because it's listed elsewhere.
Also, @Eric, he prefers the IC hunt than a challenge brawl with his preferences so, technically, being "confined" to home is "safer" for him.
Either way, the message has been sent and the issue resolved. As soon as his computer gets a charge, he'll make a public posting.
So: Ichirou and Masane get their challenges. Shādow gets his activity.
Topic finished. Lock, please?
Not really. The host is supposed to give the challenger the opportunity for a 1v1 (or a 2v2, whatever the specss on his challenge page specify). A all-out village brawl is not standard challenge procedure under any circumstances.
2] ºDetermine the Nature of the Challengeº
The host and the challenger, and ONLY the host and challenger, determine the nature of the challenge. BOTH decide if the match will be an IC Challenge or an OOC Challenge. This means that if an IC Challenge is chosen, the challenger has to RP learning the host’s identity and location and maneuvers him into a Match. This does not mean that the RP is used as a means for the Host to forever avoid having to face his challenger. The host must make it possible for the challenger to complete the terms of the RP event. This is not the battle part. You are going to face off with each other. You are just being creative about it.
If the OOC Challenge is chosen, then no RP concerning the challenge is performed. The details are agreed upon and the Match takes place.
As I stated, there are no huge IC village brawls under this challenge system, unless the host specifically allows something like 4v4 and the challenger agrees to it. Even then, keeping Isa in Kiri and sending out all of his most capable supporters is, dare I say it, stupid, even if all of his supporters could rush back at the speed of hiraishin, if the policy is to keep him safe in the confines of the village and its forces.
You answered yourself there, mate. The highlighted portion is what he is asking to be done for his challengers.
No, Kiri will not engage in the fight should be be sufficiently called out.
Also double posting.
Remember the last time someone wanted to go for a bijuu in Kiri? I do. It was a disaster worse than this. You guys make it impossible to get bijuu from you. I say do it on here at least under strict regulation instead of having another out of hand rp happen.
This was one of the reasons it got resorted back to "challenge system". I remember clearly.
The forums, also, are used as a discussion tool. It is NOT an absolute to have a fight here.
I will agree that it is, indeed, easier to use as there's no time-outs and can type longer.
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Of course it's not a rule to post here. Just a billion times more convenient.
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I have not read this thread at all, but my vote stands for stripping. Isa does not involve himself in the game enough to be a host in my eyes. I have not seen him defend the beast when I know he has had challengers. Now we have a thread about him denying a challenger because he apparently god mods. Now, I just finished a fight with Ichi and while he may have made some mistakes, he is not really a god mod anymore. And if he is, you can talk with him about it. Most of the time he will fix any mistakes. Now, the one post I have seen is complaining about how Kiri is difficult to work with when it comes to bijuu and I agree 10000%.
Solve the problems and strip the biju from them already. Or do I need to post my screenshot of him being inactive for 20 days for valid proof he is to be stripped for breaking rules?
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Isa's computer died. But he says he will accept their challenges under the stipulation that they are actual IC hunts with real IC consequences.
I.e. if you die in the match, you die in the SL RP world. And you have to actually work on getting the knowledge he is the jinchūriki of Isobu. And you have to RP acquiring the information, you cannot just "claim" to knkw because it's listed elsewhere.
Also, @Eric, he prefers the IC hunt than a challenge brawl with his preferences so, technically, being "confined" to home is "safer" for him.
Either way, the message has been sent and the issue resolved. As soon as his computer gets a charge, he'll make a public posting.
So: Ichirou and Masane get their challenges. Shādow gets his activity.
Topic finished. Lock, please?
Not really. The host is supposed to give the challenger the opportunity for a 1v1 (or a 2v2, whatever the specss on his challenge page specify). A all-out village brawl is not standard challenge procedure under any circumstances.
2] ºDetermine the Nature of the Challengeº
The host and the challenger, and ONLY the host and challenger, determine the nature of the challenge. BOTH decide if the match will be an IC Challenge or an OOC Challenge. This means that if an IC Challenge is chosen, the challenger has to RP learning the host’s identity and location and maneuvers him into a Match. This does not mean that the RP is used as a means for the Host to forever avoid having to face his challenger. The host must make it possible for the challenger to complete the terms of the RP event. This is not the battle part. You are going to face off with each other. You are just being creative about it.
If the OOC Challenge is chosen, then no RP concerning the challenge is performed. The details are agreed upon and the Match takes place.
As I stated, there are no huge IC village brawls under this challenge system, unless the host specifically allows something like 4v4 and the challenger agrees to it. Even then, keeping Isa in Kiri and sending out all of his most capable supporters is, dare I say it, stupid, even if all of his supporters could rush back at the speed of hiraishin, if the policy is to keep him safe in the confines of the village and its forces.
You answered yourself there, mate. The highlighted portion is what he is asking to be done for his challengers.
No, Kiri will not engage in the fight should be be sufficiently called out.
Also double posting.
Remember the last time someone wanted to go for a bijuu in Kiri? I do. It was a disaster worse than this. You guys make it impossible to get bijuu from you. I say do it on here at least under strict regulation instead of having another out of hand rp happen.
This was one of the reasons it got resorted back to "challenge system". I remember clearly.
The forums, also, are used as a discussion tool. It is NOT an absolute to have a fight here.
I will agree that it is, indeed, easier to use as there's no time-outs and can type longer.
Read the rest of it, highlighted in yellow:
2] ºDetermine the Nature of the Challengeº
The host and the challenger, and ONLY the host and challenger, determine the nature of the challenge. BOTH decide if the match will be an IC Challenge or an OOC Challenge. This means that if an IC Challenge is chosen, the challenger has to RP learning the host’s identity and location and maneuvers him into a Match. This does not mean that the RP is used as a means for the Host to forever avoid having to face his challenger. The host must make it possible for the challenger to complete the terms of the RP event.This is not the battle part. You are going to face off with each other. You are just being creative about it.
If the OOC Challenge is chosen, then no RP concerning the challenge is performed. The details are agreed upon and the Match takes place.
I am fine with them having to find out he is a jinch, but it has to be possible to find out that he is a jinch. He cannot hide in Kiri's "biju cloaking device" barrier or whatever indefinitely in order to avoid doing any challenges. The terms of the RP must be doable, and based on the fact that there is so much hell raised, it is questionable whether that is the case or not. I do not know for a fact what Kiri has in place, but as the rules clearly state, Isa cannot use the RP as a way to forever dodge challenges.
Hence, it would make no sense for Isa to be left completely on his own for any extended amount of time (which any large RP in Suna is going to take) because he has to allow himself to be "detected" and "known"; that would make the leadership of Kiri just as responsible for this mess if they have been truly forcing it on his character. That would mean stripping him of it and giving it to you all is almost just as bad as letting him keep it without consequences.
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Of course it's not a rule to post here. Just a billion times more convenient.
And I agree 100%!
But, even as my friend, we all know Isa can be a bit stubborn at times. Haha.
And also to address the other topics that he was unaware of, him being busy at school is why he never read them. Hell, he didn't reply to my messages half the time.
But, I am slowly getting caught up to speed here. So, just a little patience here and a little understanding, peeps.
We are all only human and all this bombardment crap against each other is doing nothing but destroying ourselves.
I have not read this thread at all, but my vote stands for stripping. Isa does not involve himself in the game enough to be a host in my eyes. I have not seen him defend the beast when I know he has had challengers. Now we have a thread about him denying a challenger because he apparently god mods. Now, I just finished a fight with Ichi and while he may have made some mistakes, he is not really a god mod anymore. And if he is, you can talk with him about it. Most of the time he will fix any mistakes. Now, the one post I have seen is complaining about how Kiri is difficult to work with when it comes to bijuu and I agree 10000%.
Solve the problems and strip the biju from them already. Or do I need to post my screenshot of him being inactive for 20 days for valid proof he is to be stripped for breaking rules?
Yea, when it comes to topics of importance as this: YOU NEED TO ACTUALLY READ IT.
You'll learn when your character comes under fire.
Isa's computer died. But he says he will accept their challenges under the stipulation that they are actual IC hunts with real IC consequences.
I.e. if you die in the match, you die in the SL RP world. And you have to actually work on getting the knowledge he is the jinchūriki of Isobu. And you have to RP acquiring the information, you cannot just "claim" to knkw because it's listed elsewhere.
Also, @Eric, he prefers the IC hunt than a challenge brawl with his preferences so, technically, being "confined" to home is "safer" for him.
Either way, the message has been sent and the issue resolved. As soon as his computer gets a charge, he'll make a public posting.
So: Ichirou and Masane get their challenges. Shādow gets his activity.
Topic finished. Lock, please?
Not really. The host is supposed to give the challenger the opportunity for a 1v1 (or a 2v2, whatever the specss on his challenge page specify). A all-out village brawl is not standard challenge procedure under any circumstances.
2] ºDetermine the Nature of the Challengeº
The host and the challenger, and ONLY the host and challenger, determine the nature of the challenge. BOTH decide if the match will be an IC Challenge or an OOC Challenge. This means that if an IC Challenge is chosen, the challenger has to RP learning the host’s identity and location and maneuvers him into a Match. This does not mean that the RP is used as a means for the Host to forever avoid having to face his challenger. The host must make it possible for the challenger to complete the terms of the RP event. This is not the battle part. You are going to face off with each other. You are just being creative about it.
If the OOC Challenge is chosen, then no RP concerning the challenge is performed. The details are agreed upon and the Match takes place.
As I stated, there are no huge IC village brawls under this challenge system, unless the host specifically allows something like 4v4 and the challenger agrees to it. Even then, keeping Isa in Kiri and sending out all of his most capable supporters is, dare I say it, stupid, even if all of his supporters could rush back at the speed of hiraishin, if the policy is to keep him safe in the confines of the village and its forces.
You answered yourself there, mate. The highlighted portion is what he is asking to be done for his challengers.
No, Kiri will not engage in the fight should be be sufficiently called out.
Also double posting.
Remember the last time someone wanted to go for a bijuu in Kiri? I do. It was a disaster worse than this. You guys make it impossible to get bijuu from you. I say do it on here at least under strict regulation instead of having another out of hand rp happen.
This was one of the reasons it got resorted back to "challenge system". I remember clearly.
The forums, also, are used as a discussion tool. It is NOT an absolute to have a fight here.
I will agree that it is, indeed, easier to use as there's no time-outs and can type longer.
Read the rest of it, highlighted in yellow:
2] ºDetermine the Nature of the Challengeº
The host and the challenger, and ONLY the host and challenger, determine the nature of the challenge. BOTH decide if the match will be an IC Challenge or an OOC Challenge. This means that if an IC Challenge is chosen, the challenger has to RP learning the host’s identity and location and maneuvers him into a Match. This does not mean that the RP is used as a means for the Host to forever avoid having to face his challenger. The host must make it possible for the challenger to complete the terms of the RP event.This is not the battle part. You are going to face off with each other. You are just being creative about it.
If the OOC Challenge is chosen, then no RP concerning the challenge is performed. The details are agreed upon and the Match takes place.
I am fine with them having to find out he is a jinch, but it has to be possible to find out that he is a jinch. He cannot hide in Kiri's "biju cloaking device" barrier or whatever indefinitely in order to avoid doing any challenges. The terms of the RP must be doable, and based on the fact that there is so much hell raised, it is questionable whether that is the case or not. I do not know for a fact what Kiri has in place, but as the rules clearly state, Isa cannot use the RP as a way to forever dodge challenges.
Hence, it would make no sense for Isa to be left completely on his own for any extended amount of time (which any large RP in Suna is going to take) because he has to allow himself to be "detected" and "known"; that would make the leadership of Kiri just as responsible for this mess if they have been truly forcing it on his character. That would mean stripping him of it and giving it to you all is almost just as bad as letting him keep it without consequences.
And I will, personally, ensure that the RP is doable for people to achieve the knowledge.
Kiri has no bs barriers up besides a sensing one and an enemy anti-Jikūkan barrier.
It's quite accessible for people to learn. I counter with the same Suna event. Plenty of Kiri nin there to ask. Also, you know village kages and other jinchūriki *should* have the knowledge of it.
Just make the knowledge obtaining legit.
Hell, Ichirou just waltzed in the first time and got his challenge. And he went through the RP route then, too. I remember that clearly, too.
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Just for clarification, My character already knows Isaribi owns the Isobu via rp I conducted in Kirigakure before our first fight, initially Isaribi was supposed to train me, and I spent time in Kiri waiting for him to get done speaking with Trev in his hospital room, where I affiliated myself with his chakra signature and Isobu's. The rp dragged on for forever like it always does and I ended up leaving Kiri,
but with this vote for the strip, it doesn't really matter.
And far as Malice, I hold none against Isaribi or Dart or anyone else for that matter, this is just a game and my personal feelings don't get into it that far. But I am adamant on "If we have to follow the rules, you gotta follow the rules." lol.
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And far as Malice, I hold none against Isaribi or Dart or anyone else for that matter, this is just a game and my personal feelings don't get into it that far. But I am adamant on "If we have to follow the rules, you gotta follow the rules." lol.
Something I wish everyone would do. Which is why I have that line of text in my signature.
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I'm down with the IC hunt but he still needs to be stripped as he has broken the rules several times. Also, @Dart, you never answered me. Once the Nibi is in a host, how would I get on the list to take it?
THe reason I ask here is because he has blocked me on this site as well as SL
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Like I said before, Isaribi got the bijuu from stripping me. I was gone 14 days, and on that day my bijuu was gone, no argument to be had, no nothing. So if for some ungodly reason he still wants to continue this ridiculous argument or any of you that sides with him, know that you are riding on the jock strap of Hypocrisy.
They want to have the rules work in their favor, then it can damn well work against them.
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Hasn't Isa already gave proof in that he's been active. At this point I think some of you guys are either butthurt or trolling. I feel as if many of you just want him stripped just so that you can make it more convenient in obtaining the Sanbi.
Everybody isn't going to get their way. I think Isa shouldn't get stripped.
Riku, you should just calm down, to tell you the truth what you just said is more than enough to support what I was implying.
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Like I said before, Isaribi got the bijuu from stripping me. I was gone 14 days, and on that day my bijuu was gone, no argument to be had, no nothing. So if for some ungodly reason he still wants to continue this ridiculous argument or any of you that sides with him, know that you are riding on the jock strap of Hypocrisy.
They want to have the rules work in their favor, then it can damn well work against them.
Shocking! You lie once more. Fortunately, here's proof:
http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,7904.0.html
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Hasn't Isa already gave proof in that he's been active. At this point I think some of you guys are either butthurt or trolling. I feel as if many of you just want him stripped just so that you can make it more convenient in obtaining the Sanbi.
Everybody isn't going to get their way. I think Isa shouldn't get stripped.
Riku, you should just calm down, to tell you the truth what you just said is more than enough to support what I was implying.
I don't hunt for bijuu anymore. No plus side for me. He's had multiple chances and would have not posted at all if this wasn't brought up.
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Also while it's really cool you guys have a thing against each other DO NOT START IT HERE.
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Like I said before, Isaribi got the bijuu from stripping me. I was gone 14 days, and on that day my bijuu was gone, no argument to be had, no nothing. So if for some ungodly reason he still wants to continue this ridiculous argument or any of you that sides with him, know that you are riding on the jock strap of Hypocrisy.
They want to have the rules work in their favor, then it can damn well work against them.
Shocking! You lie once more. Fortunately, here's proof:
http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,7904.0.html
Shocking I remember writing that post from so long ago.
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I'm down with the IC hunt but he still needs to be stripped as he has broken the rules several times. Also, @Dart, you never answered me. Once the Nibi is in a host, how would I get on the list to take it?
THe reason I ask here is because he has blocked me on this site as well as SL
It isn't my role or responsibility to tell you. You can ask the Nibi's host, yourself, after the two week grace period is up for the new jinc.
Just for clarification, My character already knows Isaribi owns the Isobu via rp I conducted in Kirigakure before our first fight, initially Isaribi was supposed to train me, and I spent time in Kiri waiting for him to get done speaking with Trev in his hospital room, where I affiliated myself with his chakra signature and Isobu's. The rp dragged on for forever like it always does and I ended up leaving Kiri,
but with this vote for the strip, it doesn't really matter.
And far as Malice, I hold none against Isaribi or Dart or anyone else for that matter, this is just a game and my personal feelings don't get into it that far. But I am adamant on "If we have to follow the rules, you gotta follow the rules." lol.
That's what I was referring to, Ichirou. So now, if you want your match, come to Kiri with your intent. Understand this, this WILL be your RP. Can't be doing side missions or other crap like that. If you're locked in an IC bijū challenge, then that take precedent and will have to wait before you RP your route to Kiri and the challenge.
Just so everyone is made aware, stripping Isa will impose a new two week grace period, the challenger list will be cleared, and it's just more waiting. Is that seriously what you want?
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Stripping is lame.
Isa is an alright guy, but as some have said he is stubborn. I say he let him keep it, much easier than giving it to Xia who will take some time to find a host, then seal it (Not a pot shot Xia, I know this process takes time) and then they get their grace.
However, if he is to keep it, he needs more of a presence on the forum, it's very important. I recall Dart being somewhat similar and he is fairly active now and has had zero issues I know of. I say give Isa 3-5 days, make him posts his preference rules in the preference page, so there is no more questions as to how to challenge him (I suggest Dart do this too and everyone else that hasnt)
Make him do this, and depending on what he says, let it go from there. If it requires IC knowledge Ichirou gets first crack. We've been through tons of times, you cant deny a challenge, and Ichi has waited three months, which is in the rules (I think).
If he refuses a challenge cause he doesn't like a person, or doesn't make a thing to say how to challenge him in 3-5 days, strips and all that jazz. Just my opinion.
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I'm down with the IC hunt but he still needs to be stripped as he has broken the rules several times. Also, @Dart, you never answered me. Once the Nibi is in a host, how would I get on the list to take it?
THe reason I ask here is because he has blocked me on this site as well as SL
It isn't my role or responsibility to tell you. You can ask the Nibi's host, yourself, after the two week grace period is up for the new jinc.
Just for clarification, My character already knows Isaribi owns the Isobu via rp I conducted in Kirigakure before our first fight, initially Isaribi was supposed to train me, and I spent time in Kiri waiting for him to get done speaking with Trev in his hospital room, where I affiliated myself with his chakra signature and Isobu's. The rp dragged on for forever like it always does and I ended up leaving Kiri,
but with this vote for the strip, it doesn't really matter.
And far as Malice, I hold none against Isaribi or Dart or anyone else for that matter, this is just a game and my personal feelings don't get into it that far. But I am adamant on "If we have to follow the rules, you gotta follow the rules." lol.
That's what I was referring to, Ichirou. So now, if you want your match, come to Kiri with your intent. Understand this, this WILL be your RP. Can't be doing side missions or other crap like that. If you're locked in an IC bijū challenge, then that take precedent and will have to wait before you RP your route to Kiri and the challenge.
Just so everyone is made aware, stripping Isa will impose a new two week grace period, the challenger list will be cleared, and it's just more waiting. Is that seriously what you want?
Dart she doesn't know who the host is. Give her the name and she will message them.
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@Trev he has had numerous chances. Too many for me to give him yet another break. Xia will have a week to find a new host. If he doesn't within the week then another topic will be made and so on.
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So some people think Isa should be stripped. Why? Because Isa was claimed to be inactive when this isn't the case. Now I am 94% sure that everyone who voted in favor of Isa getting stripped are only after the bijuu. If anyone wants to talk their way out of this then please do. Although anyone can just lie and say otherwise.
Shadow, if you may can you share one of these instances that you seem to be so heavily implying.
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Stripping is lame.
Isa is an alright guy, but as some have said he is stubborn. I say he let him keep it, much easier than giving it to Xia who will take some time to find a host, then seal it (Not a pot shot Xia, I know this process takes time) and then they get their grace.
However, if he is to keep it, he needs more of a presence on the forum, it's very important. I recall Dart being somewhat similar and he is fairly active now and has had zero issues I know of. I say give Isa 3-5 days, make him posts him preference rules in the preference page, so there is no more questions as to how to challenge him (I suggest Dart do this too and everyone else that hasnt)
Make him do this, and depending on what he says, let it go from there. If it requires IC knowledge Ichirou gets first crack. We've been through tons of times, you cant deny a challenge, and Ichi has waited three months, which is in the rules (I think).
If he refuses a challenge cause he doesn't like a person, or doesn't make a thing to say how to challenge him in 3-5 days, strips and all that jazz. Just my opinion.
Working on it. But I have had my fair share of problems still.
I'm down with the IC hunt but he still needs to be stripped as he has broken the rules several times. Also, @Dart, you never answered me. Once the Nibi is in a host, how would I get on the list to take it?
THe reason I ask here is because he has blocked me on this site as well as SL
It isn't my role or responsibility to tell you. You can ask the Nibi's host, yourself, after the two week grace period is up for the new jinc.
Just for clarification, My character already knows Isaribi owns the Isobu via rp I conducted in Kirigakure before our first fight, initially Isaribi was supposed to train me, and I spent time in Kiri waiting for him to get done speaking with Trev in his hospital room, where I affiliated myself with his chakra signature and Isobu's. The rp dragged on for forever like it always does and I ended up leaving Kiri,
but with this vote for the strip, it doesn't really matter.
And far as Malice, I hold none against Isaribi or Dart or anyone else for that matter, this is just a game and my personal feelings don't get into it that far. But I am adamant on "If we have to follow the rules, you gotta follow the rules." lol.
That's what I was referring to, Ichirou. So now, if you want your match, come to Kiri with your intent. Understand this, this WILL be your RP. Can't be doing side missions or other crap like that. If you're locked in an IC bijū challenge, then that take precedent and will have to wait before you RP your route to Kiri and the challenge.
Just so everyone is made aware, stripping Isa will impose a new two week grace period, the challenger list will be cleared, and it's just more waiting. Is that seriously what you want?
Dart she doesn't know who the host is. Give her the name and she will message them.
When it is officially declared on game site, I will. ^^
@Trev he has had numerous chances. Too many for me to give him yet another break. Xia will have a week to find a new host. If he doesn't within the week then another topic will be made and so on.
And no. The issue was him denying the challenges.
He has not resigned into accepting them.
The two people whom it was held against, have also given their approval of the new plan as they are getting their shots.
His activity has been kept to his dwellings and such but now he will post publicly. Currently, his computer is dead/still charging.
So some people think Isa should be stripped. Why? Because Isa was claimed to be inactive when this isn't the case. Now I am 94% sure that everyone who voted in favor of Isa getting stripped are only after the bijuu. If anyone wants to talk their way out of this then please do. Although anyone can just lie and say otherwise.
Shadow, if you may can you share one of these instances that you seem to be so heavily implying.
Someone lock this. It's been resolved.
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No offense Shadow, I understand that is your opinion, but I disagree. All prior strip attempts were void, which to me means, they hold no weight. If this keeps coming up, the prior situations have not been handled right. The main problem is, Isa isn't apart of this particular community.
You even said, you'll give this topic like 3-5 days. Why not use that time and let Isa posts his preferences and go from there. If Isa is seriously about being apart of this (Ie he was offended when not voting on certain changes.) Give him this option, if he's not serious, you get to strip him in that amount of days you wanted to anyway.
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So some people think Isa should be stripped. Why? Because Isa was claimed to be inactive when this isn't the case. Now I am 94% sure that everyone who voted in favor of Isa getting stripped are only after the bijuu. If anyone wants to talk their way out of this then please do. Although anyone can just lie and say otherwise.
Shadow, if you may can you share one of these instances that you seem to be so heavily implying.
Do I alone need to? He has NOT been rp active at all. You can check the logs. And back a few months he was also inactive I think there may be a thread about it even I'm not sure. It was in the mixup of the whole SSM and kiri attack time period.
So if you want to play show the proof card please do the same and show where he has been active. <3
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Nobody ever quits SL! :smt077
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And this is what Jinchuriki are always voided on opportunity to actually do what they prefer, even when its in the rules. I have no objection to what is said for the 3-5 days as most want OOC, but then don't care for the hosts opinion.
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I'll wait for Isa to post what he's going to do. Then go from there. As of now though his position is bad.
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I doubt we can turn this poll around since the majority of the people who use the forum have already voted. If you want to use the same card then by all means do so. Who would I be to stop you from bringing out evidence to support your claim.
I would like to point out that when Isa said that he had no one to RP with, it did not mean he was not doing any RP but instead was doing an individual RP by himself as he had already stated. It should have been easy to pick that out from his posts.
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http://i58.tinypic.com/316111t.png
God this took too long to convert. But yeah here you go for actual proof of his inactivity.
Just so you guys have it.
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I doubt we can turn this poll around since the majority of the people who use the forum have already voted. If you want to use the same card then by all means do so. Who would I be to stop you from bringing out evidence to support your claim.
I would like to point out that when Isa said that he had no one to RP with, it did not mean he was not doing any RP but instead was doing an individual RP by himself as he had already stated. It should have been easy to pick that out from his posts.
It needs to be public to everyone to where someone can challenge him. Dwellings, PM, etc does not count. I looked and there is no public self rp including him in the last 14 days or longer.
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20 days? Can someone give me a link to the bijuu rules. This doesn't really prove anything, I don't get on much and only because of school, I have exams this week and so studying would be my priority. Anyways back to the topic, everyone has reasons for not being on. If you can show me more of these pics and be sure to have information on when these pics were taken so they can actually be more believable because to tell you the truth I'm not convinced at all. The only thing that has seemed to grow is my assumption in that you're trolling.
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On top of all this, now that i've thought about it more, Kamui and I were left waiting for an extended period of time on Isaribi to assist in Kamui's decision on our fight. So he's been inactive plenty of times as a Host.
If people like Riku have been stripped immediately on 14 days then this should be no acception, and should not be overlooked just because it has been before.
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20 days? Can someone give me a link to the bijuu rules. This doesn't really prove anything, I don't get on much and only because of school, I have exams this week and so studying would be my priority. Anyways back to the topic, everyone has reasons for not being on. If you can show me more of these pics and be sure to have information on when these pics were taken so they can actually be more believable because to tell you the truth I'm not convinced at all. The only thing that has seemed to grow is my assumption in that you're trolling.
Ryu you're trolling more than anyone here. The bijuu rules are in this very board that you're posting in. Go and look. It impossible to have a plethora of pictures on hand and dated like a stalker.
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I haven't had the patience to look through the earlier pages of the topic. If you have the time to accuse people of something, would I be wrong in thinking that one should have the necessary evidence before doing so. I'm taking this serious, I'm not sure if you are though.
I wouldn't mind explaining to you all night how your claims are lacking.
Everyone is jumping the gun and putting their vote so that Isa can lose his Bijuu. In my opinion it seems almost biased.
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Ryu if you had been around and paid attention most of us don't need physical evidence of whats occurred because we've seen it, and no one sits around taking screenshots of everything out of line that happens. We've bore witness to it
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On top of all this, now that i've thought about it more, Kamui and I were left waiting for an extended period of time on Isaribi to assist in Kamui's decision on our fight. So he's been inactive plenty of times as a Host.
If people like Riku have been stripped immediately on 14 days then this should be no acception, and should not be overlooked just because it has been before.
I beg you to read things that are posted. Yujo was proven wrong, again, about his post. Meaning, read the topic thread link.
Here's the proof:
Like I said before, Isaribi got the bijuu from stripping me. I was gone 14 days, and on that day my bijuu was gone, no argument to be had, no nothing. So if for some ungodly reason he still wants to continue this ridiculous argument or any of you that sides with him, know that you are riding on the jock strap of Hypocrisy.
They want to have the rules work in their favor, then it can damn well work against them.
Shocking! You lie once more. Fortunately, here's proof:
http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,7904.0.html
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I just can't remove this grin from my face, because the lack of evidence is so low we're just going to go with assumptions. Nothing against you guys but I don't believe anything you're are putting out here. Its almost hard to take someone's word when they appear biased..
This is basically the same as having someone arrested because someone accused them.
I'll ask that everyone who thinks Isa should be stripped rethink their desicions.
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On top of all this, now that i've thought about it more, Kamui and I were left waiting for an extended period of time on Isaribi to assist in Kamui's decision on our fight. So he's been inactive plenty of times as a Host.
If people like Riku have been stripped immediately on 14 days then this should be no acception, and should not be overlooked just because it has been before.
Riku gave no reason at first to why he wasn't active, and on top of that, his post was invalid while told to report, but only added more onto it. If I commented in that thread when it happened, then there was a reason why it was done in a justified way.
As for Isaribi and any other Jinchuriki who has a life with school and work, that should be plenty reason as to why it would be difficult to keep up activity. I can say I'll have a period soon where I will be required to study for something major where I work, so my activity will lessen again. There has been no leniency for Jinchuriki at a given notice should anything happen, thus we are supposed to strip right away because there was good reason why they have to choose life over RP?
This does not include those who were stripped because they gave no notice of their inactivity, just as Riku did at some point. Even I was stripped because I had major things going on in my life that I could not miss.
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The facts of the current situation are on the table and at this point, however many pages in, the only thing that should matter is that rules were broken, and something must be done to deal with the issue. That's what this is about.
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The facts of the current situation are on the table and at this point, however many pages in, the only thing that should matter is that rules were broken, and something must be done to deal with the issue. That's what this is about.
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The facts of the current situation are on the table and at this point, however many pages in, the only thing that should matter is that rules were broken, and something must be done to deal with the issue. That's what this is about.
Then they shall stay on point then. We are waiting for Isa now whenever he can post about how he wanted to do so IC, so we shall wait.
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I think the problem lies in the fact that butthurt people and trollers don't know when to stop. Seriously, its like this was someone's bad joke.
Please rename this topic to "Accusing Shark man with baseless claims because I thought it would be funny" because at this point that is what this is.
Riku contribute something that can actually be used against Isa because once again, going with assumptions is biased.
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On top of all this, now that i've thought about it more, Kamui and I were left waiting for an extended period of time on Isaribi to assist in Kamui's decision on our fight. So he's been inactive plenty of times as a Host.
If people like Riku have been stripped immediately on 14 days then this should be no acception, and should not be overlooked just because it has been before.
Riku gave no reason at first to why he wasn't active, and on top of that, his post was invalid while told to report, but only added more onto it. If I commented in that thread when it happened, then there was a reason why it was done in a justified way.
As for Isaribi and any other Jinchuriki who has a life with school and work, that should be plenty reason as to why it would be difficult to keep up activity. I can say I'll have a period soon where I will be required to study for something major where I work, so my activity will lessen again. There has been no leniency for Jinchuriki at a given notice should anything happen, thus we are supposed to strip right away because there was good reason why they have to choose life over RP?
This does not include those who were stripped because they gave no notice of their inactivity, just as Riku did at some point. Even I was stripped because I had major things going on in my life that I could not miss.
Leniency has been given AND IS BEING GIVEN. By the rules he should be stripped right now already, but no here we are awaiting his post instead of just taking it away. Please stop saying he is being given no chances as this is currently one of the many he has gotten so far. When Zenaku was stripped Bocc waited an extra amount of days for him. When Rinn was stripped I waited an extra amount of days, etc.
As for RL issues. Once again I get that. 20 mins to post is something you can't do? Really? Maybe not even that much probably less.
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I think the problem lies in the fact that butthurt people and trollers don't know when to stop. Seriously, its like this was someone's bad joke.
Please rename this topic to "Accusing Shark man with baseless claims because I thought it would be funny" because at this point that is what this is.
Riku contribute something that can actually be used against Isa because once again, going with assumptions is biased.
*Rubs temples* I just...Stop talking Ryu. We have provided evidence of his inactivity, and have witnesses of the acts. So you can go ahead and stop talking.
No matter the RL reasons it takes literally no time to post "Sits in the forest meditating on some deep Sh**" (took me all of 5 seconds to post even that) So no, there is literally no excuse for inactivity for hosts. If you wish to be a host then you take it upon yourself to be active in the community at LARGE. Not just with your homies in a sealed off room that only mods can look into. If you are a host you need to FOLLOW THE RULES. So "Kiri makes me stay in the village" Is not a good excuse. At All. If Kiri wanted to be such a huge part of a hosts RP then they need to allow you to abide by those rules. Same thing if I had a partner IC that walks with me from place to place. If they wish to RP with me on a regular basis then they will be somewhat responsible for Rping the Jink rules alongside me. It does not matter if they do not like it, because it's rules I have to follow.
So far the poll says for Isa to be stripped, and I have not seen a single example of why he should not be.
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Is the redundancy not affecting anyone yet? :/
Those who have read this topic see where each individual who has posted stands, those who have not read the topic, well they are in luck- they can view it anytime! :D
Now, calm the egos down- we all hear everyone loud and clear.
You may defend or be against, you may reiterate your point 10 tens with a similar viewpoint, simply know you are only making yourself look bad. :P
With regards to the insults, argue or insult me people (!). <---make up a reason first :twisted:
Send me messages, rant, and vent I do not mind. ;)
So long as those insults are minimized when solving situations (yes, minimizing insults does help to solve situations), we all will be happy campers. =)
I think we all have at least one goal, for fun to be intact.
Or, at least I do. ;)
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Please do not even tell me that because you have come to be really irritating. Providing nothing effective to back up your claim besides ONE untrustworthy picture and biased witnesses that you probably got to agree with you.
Before you go on about, people not following the bijuu rules, make sure you have 100% legit evidence.
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Please do not even tell me that because you have come to be really irritating. Providing nothing effective to back up your claim besides ONE untrustworthy picture and biased witnesses that you probably got to agree with you.
Before you go on about, people not following the bijuu rules, make sure you have 100% legit evidence.
You are asking for proof of a negative, you know. The burden of proof is on him being active rather than him being inactive. Reason being that it's much much harder, if not impossible to prove something HASN'T happened.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof#Proving_a_negative
So instead of showing him being NOT active, the proof is in showing him NOT being active, which I for one think the amount of testimony is proof enough of that. But keep pressing if you don't believe so, just keep it in line.
edit:word order
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Please do not even tell me that because you have come to be really irritating. Providing nothing effective to back up your claim besides ONE untrustworthy picture and biased witnesses that you probably got to agree with you.
Before you go on about, people not following the bijuu rules, make sure you have 100% legit evidence.
Please, like I am gonna stalk Isa day and night taking constant pictures of his activity. Seriously, if I had shown up to this topic with 5+ photos, I would be labeled a stalker. The fact I had that one picture could be off putting to some. If you seriously expect people to come up with enough evidence to hold up in a courtroom then you obviously take things way to seriously, and need to find yourself a girl (Or guy if thats what your into).
You want to talk about biased? The only people who are defending him are in Kiri. That is literally as biased as possible. The people who are against him come from many different walks of life, and some are the other hosts. Now, the only host on his side is Dart, who is part of Kiri. Notice how you have provided nothing to this topic other than "C'mon guys! You suck!"
Now lets look at the edidence we do have, so you don't have to strain your brain.
Looking through the SL pages, there is not one example of Isa's RP in the past 14 days. - Shadow
A picture showing Isa's inactivity lasting 20 days. - My beautiful self
Eye witness accounts of Isa's inactivity - basically anyone but you who has posted here
Then to add onto the pile we have previous accusations of Isa's inactivity being brought to light.
I'm no lawyer, but I sure as hell would make a case out of this. Actually...thats exactly what I'm doing.
Please do not even tell me that because you have come to be really irritating. Providing nothing effective to back up your claim besides ONE untrustworthy picture and biased witnesses that you probably got to agree with you.
Before you go on about, people not following the bijuu rules, make sure you have 100% legit evidence.
You are asking for proof of a negative, you know. The burden of proof is on him being active rather than him being inactive. Reason being that it's much much harder, if not impossible to prove something HASN'T happened.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof#Proving_a_negative
So instead of showing him being NOT active, the proof is in showing him NOT being active, which I for one think the amount of testimony is proof enough of that. But keep pressing if you don't believe so, just keep it in line.
edit:word order
I...Yeah? I think?
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Please do not even tell me that because you have come to be really irritating. Providing nothing effective to back up your claim besides ONE untrustworthy picture and biased witnesses that you probably got to agree with you.
Before you go on about, people not following the bijuu rules, make sure you have 100% legit evidence.
You are asking for proof of a negative, you know. The proof of burden is on him being active rather than him being inactive. Reason being that it's much much harder, if not impossible to prove something HASN'T happened.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof#Proving_a_negative
So instead of showing him being NOT active, the proof is in showing him NOT being active, which I for one think the amount of testimony is proof enough of that. But keep pressing if you don't believe so, just keep it in line.
You'll have to wait for Isa himself since I'm getting tired at this point. Proof of his activeness is all that is really needed. Thanks for explaining this, its saved me the trouble of reasoning with the opposing side. This will probably decide who is right.
Thank you Rusaku. I haven't said anything bad about you but you seem to make it necessary to do so about me. We can talk about intelligence but that wouldn't matter since I've been giving logical reasoning as to why I am supporting Isa. I don't favor him if that is what you're thinking. If it ends up that he is stripped then it wouldn't matter to me. I just happened to see a topic in which I happened to disagree with the opposing side. Once again thanks.
I've already stated several times as to why I disagree. I'm not going to join the bandwagon and say hey let's strip Isa.
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*Clicks "Profile" then "Account Settings" then "Buddies/Ignore List". Clicks "Edit Ignore List" types "Ryu" hits "Enter"
It is that easy.
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Things are starting to get a bit heated for this topic today, which has reached 8 pages already.
Maybe everyone should get some sleep or something. I'm thinking about locking this topic until morning if there's going to be more crap-slinging back and forth, with no real contribution to the topic on hand.
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Things are starting to get a bit heated for this topic today, which has reached 8 pages already.
Maybe everyone should get some sleep or something. I'm thinking about locking this topic until morning if there's going to be more crap-slinging back and forth, with no real contribution to the topic on hand.
Do it. Unlock it tomorrow.
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Things are starting to get a bit heated for this topic today, which has reached 8 pages already.
Maybe everyone should get some sleep or something. I'm thinking about locking this topic until morning if there's going to be more crap-slinging back and forth, with no real contribution to the topic on hand.
That is a good idea. .
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Locking until tomorrow around 12 noon. Unless a mod does before I do. <3 ! Goodnight everyone. :P
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Locking until tomorrow around 12 noon. Unless a mod does before I do. <3 ! Goodnight everyone. :P
Waaaaay ahead of you. ;)
Topic is now unlocked.
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A few things.
1) Within a fortnight of the creation of this board message, I had RPd in Kirigakure by aiding in the departure of a subordinate; we RPd his departure for Suna, and he has been circling it to ensure the safety of the Kage. This can be confirmed by Gitsune and Xiarawst, who saw the presence of said subordinate.
2) I just posted an RP again in Kirigakure.
3) If I were to be stripped, the bijuu would go to Kirigakure no Sato; I was not in any active challenges. Yujo's instance was decidedly different, which you can easily see by going to that link.
4) Not a single person has commented for stripping me who does not have something to gain by stripping me.
5) Ichirou got his first challenge OOC; he has no legitimate knowledge of me in-game. He came to Kirigakure IC a while back, metagamed knowing my name to look for me, and while he was there apparently saw a jinchuuriki with his byakugan. This RP he did on his own. First, The Byakugan wasn't able to identify Naruto as a Jinchuuriki in the initial fight between Neji and Naruto; I cannot remember any more recent instances where the Byakugan could see a Jinchuuriki, to be honest, though it is possible my memory fails me. Second, there was no evidence he ever gained knowledge of my name and currently he cannot provide any evidence. Third, even if the first and second points were invalidated, it is not logically correct to assume, "I am looking for Isaribi. I don't know what he looks like. I see a Jinchuuriki! Isaribi must be the Jinchuuriki." *to clarify the OOC thing, I did make the stipulation, as I always do in OOC, that OOC information cannot be used for IC knowledge UNLESS the person wins the fight against me. Which he did not.
6) As far as their challenges go, I didn't get the memo on the "can't deny" thing. I've already sent out acceptance of the challenges provided they terms are agreed to.
7) This has been a huge ad hominem with very little evidence against me. Give me evidence where I neglected any one of you, and we'll talk then. I get online very frequently to check my mail; usually every other day. If school gets in my way, and the majority of people who know anything about me know I am busy in school, then I let someone know--Usually Dart, Gitsune, or Xiarawst. Regardless, I DID RP within a fortnight of each other, and I have testimony to prove it.
So hop off.
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I had honesty forgotten about that.
But yes, go back about 6 pages on the Kirigakure main boards.
Right now, as I post this, the time stamp is for 16 days ago.
But this topic was created 2 days.
Meaning, Isa's RP was still valid by the time this topic was fabricated.
And he posted yesterday, so, this whole attempting to strip for inactivity has been proven false, again.
He sent the challengers in question their specifications for challenging him. Both of which have posted approval of the aforementioned plan. So, attempting to strip by him not accepting challenges is also proven false.
This whole topic is finished. He's not being stripped. Lock it down for good?
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Ha. Smooth moves guys. Isa should still set up a rules topic here on the forum though.
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Ha. Smooth moves guys. Isa should still set up a rules topic here on the forum though.
^
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Ichirou got his first challenge OOC; he has no legitimate knowledge of me in-game. He came to Kirigakure IC a while back, metagamed knowing my name to look for me, and while he was there apparently saw a jinchuuriki with his byakugan. This RP he did on his own. First, The Byakugan wasn't able to identify Naruto as a Jinchuuriki in the initial fight between Neji and Naruto; I cannot remember any more recent instances where the Byakugan could see a Jinchuuriki, to be honest, though it is possible my memory fails me. Second, there was no evidence he ever gained knowledge of my name and currently he cannot provide any evidence. Third, even if the first and second points were invalidated, it is not logically correct to assume, "I am looking for Isaribi. I don't know what he looks like. I see a Jinchuuriki! Isaribi must be the Jinchuuriki." *to clarify the OOC thing, I did make the stipulation, as I always do in OOC, that OOC information cannot be used for IC knowledge UNLESS the person wins the fight against me. Which he did not.
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Byakugan
Everything else except this little bit here seems decent. The byakugan itself can distinguish between chakras exceptionally well, even better than the sharingan. It can definitely pick out a jinchurikii.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp1w9O4zops
Skip to about 39:35. Neji definitely noticed something was up, but since his knowledge of jinchurikii at the time was very limited, he did not necessarily shout, "Yup, that's where the 9-tails went".
Secondly, he doesn't really need your name; he just needs to know that you are the jinchurikii. Your name is not really all that important unless it explicitly states that in your rules.
Thirdly, again, if Ichirou wanted to IC find you again, he would not use a name; he would simply use the byakugan to find the chakra, since he knows that there is a jinchurikii in the village. Considering Kiri has no OP stuff, it would take maybe a few turns of looking around before finding the confined jinchurikii somewhere. So a name really is not that important when all of the other pertinent information has already been gathered as far as I'm concerned.
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Assuming Isaribi uses the the Three Tails for him to pick up on its chakra.
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Assuming Isaribi uses the the Three Tails for him to pick up on its chakra.
To have that much insight he would probably need to train a lot and then maybe need senjutsu to sense the bijuu. The odds of him even finding Isa within the village would be slim unless he was Madara. The Byakugan has more insight then the Sharingan but it doesn't let you sense chakra. You might be able to see something different about someone's chakra but for all you know they may be under a genjustu. Also there is not only the jinchuriki within the village, you would have to find all the odd looking chakra's and verify them.
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Ha. Smooth moves guys. Isa should still set up a rules topic here on the forum though.
I agree with this.
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Assuming Isaribi uses the the Three Tails for him to pick up on its chakra.
To have that much insight he would probably need to train a lot and then maybe need senjutsu to sense the bijuu. The odds of him even finding Isa within the village would be slim unless he was Madara. The Byakugan has more insight then the Sharingan but it doesn't let you sense chakra. You might be able to see something different about someone's chakra but for all you know they may be under a genjustu. Also there is not only the jinchuriki within the village, you would have to find all the odd looking chakra's and verify them.
While I am not sure how much Ichirou has trained on the byakugan, the byakugan even without sage mode could still see the tailed beast chakra. If he were challenging Dart when he only encountered Isarabi, then okay, I can see how the multiple jinchs conflict would come into play, but otherwise, name is not important.
If the jinchurikii can be sensed, noticed with the sharingan, or even felt while the host is passively just loitering about in SL, then I see no reason for the byakugan not to be able to do so either. If none of those are sufficient for identifying a jinchurikii in passive state, then fair enough, it'll be down for the record.
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Assuming Isaribi uses the the Three Tails for him to pick up on its chakra.
To have that much insight he would probably need to train a lot and then maybe need senjutsu to sense the bijuu. The odds of him even finding Isa within the village would be slim unless he was Madara. The Byakugan has more insight then the Sharingan but it doesn't let you sense chakra. You might be able to see something different about someone's chakra but for all you know they may be under a genjustu. Also there is not only the jinchuriki within the village, you would have to find all the odd looking chakra's and verify them.
If the jinchurikii can be sensed, noticed with the sharingan, or even felt while the host is passively just loitering about in SL, then I see no reason for the byakugan not to be able to do so either. If none of those are sufficient for identifying a jinchurikii in passive state, then fair enough, it'll be down for the record.
Aside from any notions where the Sharingan is actually being used to subdue a jinchuuriki once it has already been identified, I don't recall any evidence of the Sharingan being able to distinguish between passive jinchuuriki from any random person.
The big issue with it is, in the manga, the jinchuuriki are all pretty famous for various reasons. The argument could be made that I am famous as Isaribi, I'd rather not make that argument, but I don't see the argument being that that I am famous for being a jinchuuriki--I've had relatively little foreign contact.
If Ichirou wants to go about finding me, same goes for Masane or Madara or any previous future challengers, all they have to do is talk to me. I'll post a rules page, assuming I can find it, when I've got a moment later. Right now, I have to go to a class.
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...So many replies to this thread.
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...So many replies to this thread.
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If there is anymore that anyone wants to add, PM a mod and this topic will be unlocked. Otherwise, it would seem as if this thread has reached its logical conclusion.