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[Trev]

Well my whole point is that they're not attached to the summoner in any way shape or form anymore. I can't summon, release, control, not even track the zombie once they have been released. Guess we'll have to wait on more opinions I suppose.

[Akasaka Rakudo]

Well my whole point is that they're not attached to the summoner in any way shape or form anymore. I can't summon, release, control, not even track the zombie once they have been released. Guess we'll have to wait on more opinions I suppose.

It's true it wouldn't make sense for you to still be drained after releasing the zombie, but the rules we are making don't have to make sense rp wise, they just need to satisfy the need to take an ax to this jutsu.

[Akasaka Rakudo]

I want to also add that zombies should not be able to do Chakra Transfer Technqiue. All you need is some zombie with flea summons or something and you are constantly gaining chakra from a bottomless source, it's half the benefits of Edo Tensei with no downsides. Just thought of this from the fight I am having.

[UettoSenju]

I want to also add that zombies should not be able to do Chakra Transfer Technqiue. All you need is some zombie with flea summons or something and you are constantly gaining chakra from a bottomless source, it's half the benefits of Edo Tensei with no downsides. Just thought of this from the fight I am having.

Seconds this... Nice observation.

[Eric]

I want to also add that zombies should not be able to do Chakra Transfer Technqiue. All you need is some zombie with flea summons or something and you are constantly gaining chakra from a bottomless source, it's half the benefits of Edo Tensei with no downsides. Just thought of this from the fight I am having.

Here here, I third this! I don't know why I didn't think about that...

[Trev]

Sounds fine to me.

[Trev]

Double post, so I apologize, but I noticed this thread dying. Which means people likely don't care about it anymore/lack interest. So, to finally get this over with, I think most people would agree that Edo's can't transfer chakra over, so that should/will be added to the rules.

Since I'm the only one complaining about the chakra tax for free zombies, I guess I'll concede on that one. So long as it only hurts Edo users starting from this point on (So I don't get charged for Rares.) Similar to how Bocc got to keep his alt zombies, even after the alt rule, as the rule was not in place before hand, and I would like to not be punished now for a rule that wasn't there.

Thoughts? If we all agree and there is nothing more, I'll post the rules once more, add those two, and we can finally be done with this.

[Akasaka Rakudo]

Double post, so I apologize, but I noticed this thread dying. Which means people likely don't care about it anymore/lack interest. So, to finally get this over with, I think most people would agree that Edo's can't transfer chakra over, so that should/will be added to the rules.

Since I'm the only one complaining about the chakra tax for free zombies, I guess I'll concede on that one. So long as it only hurts Edo users starting from this point on (So I don't get charged for Rares.) Similar to how Bocc got to keep his alt zombies, even after the alt rule, as the rule was not in place before hand, and I would like to not be punished now for a rule that wasn't there.

Thoughts? If we all agree and there is nothing more, I'll post the rules once more, add those two, and we can finally be done with this.

Foshizzle.

[Akasaka Rakudo]

Oh yeah and this " Keito on the other hand weaved a few handseals before summoning a dozen Kage Bunshin to his side" Just nonchalantly summon a dozen shadow clones, why not 50? You have infinite chakra. There should probably be a limit on that.

[Trev]

Agreed, I say maybe three and that might be pushing it.

Or perhaps none, seeing the abuse that Shadow Clones can do with an Edo.

[Eric]

Well, we see the effects of shadow cloning with Edo Tensei. Madara did it, and the five kage were able to dispatch his clones (at a high price, maybe, but dispatched nonetheless) while they barely got the original close to being sealed.

Hashirama's clone apparently was pathetically weak if Madara's complaint is to be believed, so the cloning process when involving Edo's seems to have some sort of detriment to it, especially the more that are used.

[Akasaka Rakudo]

Well, we see the effects of shadow cloning with Edo Tensei. Madara did it, and the five kage were able to dispatch his clones (at a high price, maybe, but dispatched nonetheless) while they barely got the original close to being sealed.

Hashirama's clone apparently was pathetically weak if Madara's complaint is to be believed, so the cloning process when involving Edo's seems to have some sort of detriment to it, especially the more that are used.

Ok so something undefined might be happening. Also, didn't Onoki just vaporize all the clones with Jinton?

[Kage]

I would still like to propose and push for the following.
- 25% of one's chakra per zombie summoned
- Concentration and control rule

[Trev]

I still once again disagree >>

I think 15% is fine, considering we already have so many rules (Perhaps meet in the middle at 20?)

As for the concentration rule, I mean I guess it could get added, but 99% of people are going to treat their Edos as npcs, and just place a talisman in them to get total control. So I guess it can be added, but I don't think it will effect much.

[Eric]

Well, we see the effects of shadow cloning with Edo Tensei. Madara did it, and the five kage were able to dispatch his clones (at a high price, maybe, but dispatched nonetheless) while they barely got the original close to being sealed.

Hashirama's clone apparently was pathetically weak if Madara's complaint is to be believed, so the cloning process when involving Edo's seems to have some sort of detriment to it, especially the more that are used.

Ok so something undefined might be happening. Also, didn't Onoki just vaporize all the clones with Jinton?

I reviewed that portion of the fight, and it was actually a massive ninjutsu-based counter-attack that took down the clones, including Dust release in ita combination attack used against Madara as a whole, but yes, the dust release is what actually took down the clones.. Madara had already shown that dust release can be absorbed with the Rinnegan, so I find it confusing that Madara's clones, as a group, were not able to stop the technique.

Maybe it is more a rinnegan limitation than an edo tensei one? I'm not entirely sure on this one.