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Roleplay => Village Square => Topic started by: Akasaka Rakudo on December 18, 2013, 06:12:03 AM
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So yeah, Magic Ears. I walk in the gates of Konoha, and say a few sentences. Yujo, in the Hokage mansion in the center of the village, can clearly hear me. Just because his ears are that amazing. So by that logic he must be able to hear pretty much the whole village, since you cannot selectively hear things, unless Yujo really is claiming Super Man's, Super Hearing.
He also says that me shunshining with Raiton no Yoroi would not dodge the baseball sized Kamui he was about to launch at my head. I did say I did the shunshin as he looked out the window, meaning just before he launched the Kamui, I really don't think there is even an argument for that one.
So Yujo needs to explain his god ears, and I guess people need to chime in on the fastest man alive's ability to be fast.
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I honestly don't get how he did it without knowing you were entering the village and focused upon listening to you. I'm not saying that he can not hear to that degree as with the right training in SL terms I'm sure you can achieve such but I do think the person would have to be focusing to use some skill that blocks out all other sounds to focus in on the one they are trying to pick up on.
For instance Kirk learned how to use the Silent Killing Tech as on of his first skills on SL. He can literally hear the beating of one's heart. However, he has to focus on listening for those faint sounds such as the heart beat and small breaths. Its not just that he can walk around listening to everyone's heart beat. Later he want on to be able to tell if one is lying by listening for the heart to shit and to watch the body actions... but still he had to focus for the hearing part.
Yujo should be side tracked at the moment and not focused on listening for Rakudo. Sense he would have to filter through many sounds to do so and is currently talking with people.... now if he would have noted to sense Rakudo then listen in on him I could see where that would be more reasonable. Like how Nathan used the sensory barrier, that stretches like a quarter to half mile out into the nearby outskirts, to note Rakudo entering Konoha.
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"So by Rakudo's logic". I believe pulling this out of what he called a post would be nice to preface all of this.
To begin: The hearing, quite plain and simple is his only defense against not dying. What he tried to do is character control me, by first off, straight up saying 6 months of RL training equates to nothing, my ears are accustomed to this, as I have trained it. If this is the logic we are going by, Rakudo is not only not the fastest man alive, but the man with least amount of logic. What everyone trains for means nothing, no rinnegan, no KG mastery, no nothing which is quite silly. If training means nothing, then pie is cake, and cake is pizza, because this makes no sense.
Second: Moving out of a space time barrier is not possible, have you seen the technique? First off, I posted that as soon as I looked out the window, the kamui was shot. Your post as stated, "I did say I did the shunshin as he looked out the window", instant attack, happened at the same time. Hmm...
Lastly: Hush Kirk, you just want the Sword.
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I have good reason to want that sword... I need it for something.
And I still don't get how Rakudo is the fastest man in the world... that's BS just saying. I rped for like six years of physical training and for two of those years I rped nothing but it really posting training rp like three times a day, everyday. So yeah fastest...
But anyways, I am not saying there were not flaws in the rp I was commenting on the topic at hand which is the hearing. I still think one would have to focus to a degree for that.
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I said one of, and Rakudo no doubt trained for it too.
As Kirk said even with it being possible there is no reason for you to have been listening right there for me. If you can tune things out and then focus in it would make sense, you can't be listening to every sound at the same time and somehow process it all into individual noises. That would make no sense.
"As you looked out the window" you wouldn't know what you are aiming at. You don't know I am there, you'd have to look down at me where ever I am and then arbitrarily choose to kill me, which would give me enough time to Raiton Shunshin away. Though if your super hearing was fair like Kirk suggests you'd have no reason to decide I am the person coming to kill you.
About the barrier, I read that page and it says this "It is directly linked to a sphere of water under the Hokage's mansion and shows enemies and Konoha shinobi/villagers all the same. The sphere of water projects the entire village within and Green dots resemble Allies (Konoha shinobi or visitors that have been given the all clear from the sensory team and guards) while the Red dots resemble enemies (those without the all clear). "
But the gates are open all the time, EVERYONE is allowed to walk in, so how would the barrier be differentiating people? Maybe Kirk can explain that one.
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Yes yes but I am not sure if any have trained it to the point that I have. I can't really say if they have or not but I trained the hell out of my character in terms of speed to the point it spanned over RL years of actually daily posting.
Well if the barrier is still like it was back when I was there and all. It actually picks up on chakra signatures, with the aid of sensory working along with the barrier team, to see if the chakra source is on file and to tell who the person is. The info is then telepathically instantly sent to the higher ups of Konoha, along with relaid to the ANBU, Patrol Guards, and Root from there it spreads to the ranks. But the Hokage and a few others have a link to the barrier which allows them to pick up on someone the moment they enter.
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Yes yes but I am not sure if any have trained it to the point that I have. I can't really say if they have or not but I trained the hell out of my character in terms of speed to the point it spanned over RL years of actually daily posting.
Well if the barrier is still like it was back when I was there and all. It actually picks up on chakra signatures, with the aid of sensory working along with the barrier team, to see if the chakra source is on file and to tell who the person is. The info is then telepathically instantly sent to the higher ups of Konoha, along with relaid to the ANBU, Patrol Guards, and Root from there it spreads to the ranks. But the Hokage and a few others have a link to the barrier which allows them to pick up on someone the moment they enter.
Well I don't know then, has Rakudo ever been to Konoha before? I would assume he has. Since the gates remain open I would assume you would be getting pinged with new people on a relatively frequent basis, since they can come in any ol time they please.
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Yes yes but I am not sure if any have trained it to the point that I have. I can't really say if they have or not but I trained the hell out of my character in terms of speed to the point it spanned over RL years of actually daily posting.
Well if the barrier is still like it was back when I was there and all. It actually picks up on chakra signatures, with the aid of sensory working along with the barrier team, to see if the chakra source is on file and to tell who the person is. The info is then telepathically instantly sent to the higher ups of Konoha, along with relaid to the ANBU, Patrol Guards, and Root from there it spreads to the ranks. But the Hokage and a few others have a link to the barrier which allows them to pick up on someone the moment they enter.
Well I don't know then, has Rakudo ever been to Konoha before? I would assume he has. Since the gates remain open I would assume you would be getting pinged with new people on a relatively frequent basis, since they can come in any ol time they please.
It is linked to a huge data base that handles all the filtration and such like that. And at the time you were the only one entering :P Even still I am just saying how it works to my knowledge.
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Arbitrarily? No need to want to kill people. Jiongu user- Collects body parts. Kirk simply does not know how ototon works, at least not as well as I do, or some of the Otokage. I trained to be able to hear as I please, which is the main point of contention here, if you are refuting that, you refute all type of RP training so all of us are scrawny adults who know nothing about anything because you are refuting the results of years worth of RP time training. At this point, being as all of the old Otokage are gone or inactive, and since I have constantly trained those skills, I could claim to have the best hearing capabilities in all of SL.
The barrier works like this: If you aren't a Shinobi of the Village, it will alert anyone who is connected to the barrier of anyone who is not recognized in the village. You are not. I am connected to the barrier as most higher-ups are.
And who the heck says you can just waltz out of a space time barrier like kamui is? If you are figuring in time, Kamui is instant, as soon as I say you, made the decision to shoot and kill. Instant, no premeditation. You were by the barriers jurisdiction a foreigner, so as soon as you entered the village you were marked by the barrier, I took two steps out the window, and shot immediately. You had no time to even figure out what was going on before you had a hole in your skull. No sensing abilities, no nothing, you were a sitting duck and got sniped, deal with it.
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Ok so based on that your post is completely void worthy since you are meta-gaming SUPER hard.
You just said you can hear stuff as you want, meaning you do have to focus like Kirk said, so you didn't hear me. If you can focus your hearing on a random point of the village for no reason I can sneeze and accidentally dodge your Kamui.
By your logic with the barrier every villager is marked as an enemy, since none of them are Shinobi. You have not killed every person who has visited Konoha, doing so to the only person coming to fight you is again obvious meta gaming.
In short, your hearing is out due to meta gaming as is the barrier, since I'd be the dozenth odd person pinged as a foreigner.
Also you want to make Kamui even more god mod. It is cast in a micro second and cannot be escaped, the description is one of the most god mod things I have ever heard, and I've fought you before. Due to my Raiton shunshin the barrier would miss, I said that since it was so small avoiding it would only require a small movement. So the point of you wanting to buff Kamui is moot since it didn't hit.
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Go read the description of the barrier. Also, I am done arguing with you, the point of coming to the forums was to solve this with opinions other than ours. And to be honest, you are simply too ignorant, or whiner to speak with. So, I'm just gonna go, I'll post again when you say something that makes sense. Have a nice night.
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Agreed.
To have heard that, you would have had to be focused on Rakudo as he was saying it to hear it. Simple as that. If you were, that was meta-gaming, as why would someone in the middle of a conversation simply focus on a random area, where a random person walked in, a great distance away? There is no reason.
Second, Kamui is not instantaneous as shown multiple times in the series. The bigger, and further away the target, the longer it takes to use. Plus you'd have to be focused on the target also, this doesn't happen as soon as you look out a window, especially at such a distance. I mean, you could barely make out a person at the distance without some sort of telescopic vision, which sadly the Sharingan doesn't give.
Also, as shown again, it gets avoided plenty of times! So Rakudo avoiding it, even if he did move when it was activited, which is impossible as it would have taken time for Yujo to focus, he was still able to avoid it.
Just my two cents.
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I posted the description of the barrier earlier and just explained my point on it, once again your response is "You're stupid." If shooting holes through your arguments like a machine gun through wet tissue paper is whining then I guess I am whining. Everything you have said is contradictory at best, flat out god modding at the worst. You've got nothing. Kaito just summed up.
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Go read the description of the barrier. Also, I am done arguing with you, the point of coming to the forums was to solve this with opinions other than ours. And to be honest, you are simply too ignorant, or whiner to speak with. So, I'm just gonna go, I'll post again when you say something that makes sense. Have a nice night.
Are you done arguing because you don't have any more points, you know you lost and your now gonna sulk? Because it seems to me like the case is you lost the argument and have left to sulk. Also ignorance is thinking you can have unavoidable techniques on a roleplay site and that people will agree to them.
And who the heck says you can just waltz out of a space time barrier like kamui is? If you are figuring in time, Kamui is instant, as soon as I say you, made the decision to shoot and kill. Instant, no premeditation.
Academy Student Example throws a shuriken, hitting the enemy in the shoulder, cutting through their veins, and disabling their arms. (Or as I'd like to say, Academy Student Idiot uses a one hit kill move to kill you dead because you weren't moving when I used it so your dead.)
That's auto-hitting. You're saying that you automatically hit the enemy and already state the outcomes.
You need to give the enemy a chance to react.
From the "How to Zone Fight" page of the wikia. It's got a lot of great stuff on how to actually RP fairly and not leave in a huff at the end of every argument.
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Agrees with Sabu on both points, realising he forgot to mention the auto-hit part in his own post.
But it's exactly right, you're basically telling Rakudo he can't avoid your attack? That's an auto-hit, and a meta-game in the one post! New record!!!! Someone give this man a reward!
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Allow me to elaborate how fast the technique, Kamui happens almost instantaneously upon focusing on that specific target.
It's pretty hard to escape it's grasp unless you somehow happen to have Hiraishin laying around to use. (Remember Obito's fight with Minato?)
Kamui's intangibility operates according to same time span, but just activates from the adjacent eye.
What differs is how adept that user is and how much chakra they put into the technique; such as in Kakashi's case in using it. (http://youtu.be/Sz4NWLfCiO0 (http://youtu.be/Sz4NWLfCiO0))
If we're going by manga/anime logic, I don't see with enough training you could make a relatively small portal without any trouble and time.
Kakashi was able to evolve his usage with the technique to avoid potentially fatal obstacles upon activation and this was a long way from the initial use of it that actually required some concentration. (Even transporting bigger objects with relative ease; such in the case when it was used in conjunction with the Hachibi Jinchuuriki.)
The technique itself isn't inescapable, just rather difficult to escape from once you get caught in it.
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The technique itself isn't inescapable, just rather difficult to escape from once you get caught in it.
Then that's your entire argument now. Ready? Go.
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I thought some one was developing magic ear plugs or something.
Damn you guys.
Although the hearing part seems a bit far fetched but the Kamui may be legit.
Make a poll so people can decide.
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I never really understood why people bring their bijuu fight problems here when they haven't even got a judge. The smarter thing to do, Rakudo, would have been to get a judge and then came here if you didn't agree with said judge. Everyone can post and agree with whoever they want, but at the end of the say the decision is made by the judge. Well, sometimes from the majority here too but that's, you know, if one of you disagrees with the judge which neither one of you has gotten yet. I suggest you both go find and agree upon a judge first and then come back here if it's needed.
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I believe all parties in this neglected to split certain actions and things up into two different postings.
Rakudo - Entering the village through the gates and then getting all the way to the Hokage Manor, which happens to be right in front of and below the Hokage monument last I checked. Both of which being the farthest things away from the gates themselves.
Yujo and Uetto - Recognizing and attacking.
But since all parties have acknowledged each-other's postings as having happened already, (Rakudo entering the village and making it to the Hokage Manor, Yujo hearing and Kamuing out the window, Uetto emerging from the ground and attempting to snatch up Samehada) then the only other things that can be argued are each-other's abilities and the gauging/viewpoint of them. Some of these abilities are personal claims, while some are set-in-stone things. I'm willing to flesh out the situation if people are willing to listen and not be butthurt about it. ._.
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This is a biju fight? Goodness, I thought Rakudo was just coming for a stroll. :-?
Anyways, Nathan, sometimes people assume that the other is going to disagree with the judge; so rather than wasting time waiting on the verdict from the judge that will be argued, some just cut to the chase and post here.
The sensory barrier marks known allies and known enemies, and has a mark for unknowns. Now, if we're going Rakduo-Cmage here, then Cmage has visited Konoha before. He and Kayenta both had a somewhat fireworks show, but I believe that was ignored/voided. Since that was so long ago, I have a hard time recalling exactly the fate of that.
To my knowledge, Cmage's arrivals in Konoha normally would not trigger too many issues, since other than some wild hair moments, people were pretty tame.
Now, I believe that Yujo could potentially do what he did, if Cmage was an enemy. However, Rakudo/Cmage is a Mist shinobi, and currently, we are allied with the Mist. Since Cmage did not have much of a record for being abrasive, other than his doings outside of the village (many of the biju fights, unless finished, really can't count) then he would not have appeared as an enemy on the radar.
Maybe unknown, maybe ally, but not enemy. Yujo would have had reason to listen in on him, and so he did. So, he decides to peek out the window and, after seeing Rakudo walking the chakra hound and hearing him speak of biju hunting, he decides to Kamui him.
Rakudo is walking towards the Hokage Office; he has not yet reached it, not even in his reply post. The activation of byakugan and then dodge due to seeing Kirk underground. Kirk went underground after making his announcement for war on Konoha and speaking with Yujo. Rakudo reposted his entry post, which was going on during the discussion.
So, Rakudo is walking down Main Street, Kirk leaves the office, Yujo catches Rakudo's biju hunt chatter. Walks to window, aims, fires. Activating the byakugan would have been uneeded to catch Yujo, as his movement and chakra usage probably could have been noted by the sword, but Kirk was going in for theft.
So we presume Kirk went more or less straight to the walking sword, then he would get there around the time that this Kamui business is going on. If Rakudo goes forward to save his blade, then he would be moving in reaction to both attacks upon his party.
So, as Kage said, is Rakudo fast enough and to dodge the Kamui? Probably. Does Yujo have the intel to want to attack and to attack Rakudo? Well, if him hearing him talk of the hunt holds water (which I think it does if Ototon is the reasoning) then I'd say yes.
So the fight can move on to Empty Town now, yes?
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Let me put it like this, when Minato got Kamui'd and this was an attempt to pull in his entire body, and while minato actually being the fastest man alive, he had to use Hiraishin to dodge, he even quoted to say that if he hasn't used FTG he would have been done.
When the 4th Raikage fought with Minato, around the same time in history, Minato handily outmatched the Raikages speed with his famed Raiton no Yoroi shunshin combo, and that was only done with Hiraishin.
Rakudo is claiming that he is either faster than the speed of light as Hiraishin is, and can move out of a Kamui barrier which would at this point would be cast at a much smaller size than Tobi tried to Minato when he tried to suck his whole body in, as I specified it was the size of a baseball. He would have had to have known by some sort of chakra sensing, or his byakugan, which neither was active, or would have bad to use Hiraishin. It wasn't an auto-hit, he simply waltzed into a village as arrogant as he was when he plagued our world as Bocchiere, and left himself a sitting duck. He was defenseless as a deaf bat and got sniped.
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I always thought the Hokage manor was in the center of the village, if it is on the opposite end then I would say Yujo's post isn't even possible. I posted walking in the gates and saying that and then starting to walk down the road, Yujo said he heard it took two steps and Kamui'd me. Looking at a pic of Konoha Kage is correct, and Yujo's attack shouldn't be realistically possible.
I'm not sure how many more times I can say this but here I go again THE KAMUI DIDN'T HIT ME. I dodged it because of Kirk's action against me, I am not inside the barrier.
About Minato, I'm sure the fact that Obito was HOLDING HIM IN PLACE, had NOTHING to do with why he had to use Hiraishin. I guess he could have cut off his own arm instead of using Hiraishin though.
The best Yujo has going for him right now is Kamui neutrally agreeing that Kamui, the jutsu, is difficult to escape once you are trapped in it, but as I said I dodged before it would have hit me so that is a non-issue.
You know Yujo knows he's losing this since he is calling me Bocch, so he just has nothing else viable to actually put forth.
I am revising my opinion though. The Sharingan does not give you telescopic vision, and Yujo is trying to hit me with pretty much the smallest possible Kamui from total opposite sides of the village, I call shenanigans.
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...About Minato, I'm sure the fact that Obito was HOLDING HIM IN PLACE, had NOTHING to do with why he had to use Hiraishin. I guess he could have cut off his own arm instead of using Hiraishin though...
Yes, actually, he could have cut off his own arm had he been fast enough, since Obito required bodily contact in order to absorb folks. Yujo's Kamui is Kakashi's eye ability, more suited for long range.
...I am revising my opinion though. The Sharingan does not give you telescopic vision, and Yujo is trying to hit me with pretty much the smallest possible Kamui from total opposite sides of the village, I call shenanigans.
The Hokage Building itself is the tallest building in the entire village, with a perfect view of main street. Him being able to see you and use Kamui against you seems legit; while tricky to escape from, the actual movement of the object in question is not halted by this technique.
See Kakashi vs Deidara (Kakashi was a noob at it, but we're talking prolonged influence did not stop Deidara and his bird thing from travelling). If movement is not halted with this eye's kamui, then something as fast as lightning release armor, shunshin style, could evade with non-life threatening injuries, as long as the Kamui user doesn't keep track of their target.
Movement was only halted when it completely sucked in object, such as Kakashi vs Pain. All Yujo is doing is trying to suck in a certain part of Rakudo. If moving early and fast enough, then one could get away with minimal damage done to their person.
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If we're skipping the judge, Eric, then I'll post my opinion. Yujo has passive super hearing via Ototon. I saw you, Rakudo, argue that it'd make him go insane. I haven't read everything here but, if it hasn't been resolved yet, then see Superman.
Now, that that's out of the way and Yujo can hear you then you're hit. Why? Because he, with the Sharingan active, saw you, a rather large chakra source and source of the voice, and Kamui'd you. Kamui is, in fact, instantaneous on objects, people, etc. Kakashi was able to instantly warp away a nail, kunai, Tailed Beast, and Gedo Mazo arm. So, you -- a person who didn't have their Byukugan active -- would have been caught in the Kamui before you even knew it. Kirk's post happened AFTER Yujo performed his attacked as illustrated when Kirk posted, and I quote, "Unknowingly to Kirk Rakudo would seem to be in a bind himself.". So, with that bit of information you'd be hit. If you have any arguments regarding this then feel free to respond to this, but I'm fairly certain I've covered everything that was being disputed.
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Alright, let's break this down a bit. I've copied and pasted the main postings concerning this discussion, and cut out some minor side-postings and OOC. I've color-coded the postings according to their posters.
(16h44m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo notes Yujo had a problem with him using the bijuu telepathic link to dowse for him, so fine, Rakudo reposts. Rakudo had set out from Kirigakure to scrounge up the rest of the bijuu. His first destination is Konoha, from there he can begin head -
(16h43m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - heading to any of the other villages, so it was as good a place to start as any. He landed his clay bird in front of Konoha's gates and hops off, drawing Samehada from his back as he does. He sets the sword down on the ground and it stands, -
(16h42m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo -on all fours, using its spines as little legs to walk. Rakudo and Samehada enter the village, Samehada crawling along at Rakudo's side. As they make their way down the main thoroughfare Rakudo says to the blade, "Smell anything tasty -
(16h39m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - Samehada?" The swords nuzzles against Rakudo's ankle and he rolls his eyes, "Yes I know you are fond of Gyuki's chakra Samehada, but we are looking for other chakras today. Look for big chakra, big like me." The sword shimmies back -
(16h37m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - from Rakudo and begins to scuttle down the main road that leads to the center of the village. Rakudo follows and as they go further Samehada's tongue hangs out of its mouth and it begins to pant and drool. The sword takes off faster now, and -
(16h34m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo dashes after it, Samehada must have caught the "scent" of a very large source of chakra to make it get this excited, hopefully it was a Jinchuriki. He did keep Samehada well fed after all, so even a man with exceptionally large chakra should -
(16h33m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - not set him off this much, it should be another one of the bijuu, unless there was someone here with that much chakra. Regardless, Rakudo follows after Samehada as it scuttles toward the center of the village and the Hokage's mansion.
(15h44m) <火> Uzumaki Yūjō |From inside the Hokage's office, Yujo's well trained ears picked up on what the man outside had said. A bijuu Hunter? A sigh was released from his lungs and out onto the world. "One moment." He began walking towards the window that (C)
(15h39m) <火> Uzumaki Yūjō (C) overlooked the mainstreet in which the sound was heard from. During that 2 second walk, he shifted his eyes to those of the Mangekyo and peeked out said window to see the man walking the samehada like some sort of dog. (C)
(15h35m) <火> Uzumaki Yūjō (C) At which point a baseball sized kamui would be shot out at the mans' forehead, of course closing down to steal a portion of his brain, to make it go bye bye. This of course would be done in a microsecond, and without any sort of defensive (C)
(15h32m) <火> Uzumaki Yūjō (C) measure up, ol' Samehada would be left without an owner, at least an alive one.
(14h25m) <||||> Uchiha Kage watches the small skirmish from atop the Hokage monument, eating popcorn at the sight of all the assumptions. Notably, he had been sitting upon the monument of his favorite Hokage, the Shodaime.
(15h27m) <火> TachiUchiha an arm would spring from the ground to brush against the scale holding sword. Kirk having used his transportation system to originally rise in the street but this weapon gave him interest +
(15h24m) <火> TachiUchiha which made his actions alter in an attempt to capture the sword. Seeing how he would rise his arm right under the sword to cut it off in its tracks the blade may have been caught off guard. Then agian there was a good chance it would be drawn +
(15h22m) <火> TachiUchiha to Kirk's being as he himself hosted a rather huge chakra supply along with a rare treat for the blade. The chakra of the gift of the hermits a chakra so rare the blade would more then likely be drawn to it highly. All Kirk would need was a +
(15h19m) <火> TachiUchiha simply brush of his touch to the weapon which would be followed by an instant puff of smoke the sword being sent to Kirk's holding cell and what not in the SGT where it would be fed by a mass storage of chakra from tailed beast to more exotic +
(15h18m) <火> TachiUchiha meals. The touch of his skin to the sword having activated the Flying Thunder God of course. Unknowingly to Kirk Rakudo would seem to be in a bind himself.
(15h17m) <火> TachiUchiha converses, "Wrong account... Oh well. All actions go to my main. I think you know who that is."
(14h56m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo entered the gate of the village and said a sentence or two and Yujo, at the center of the village, in a building, can hear him. Ok. Let's break this one down. If Yujo can hear Rakudo just inside the gates when he himself is at the center of -
(14h55m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - of the village then Yujo must be able to hear at least that far in all other directions too, which means he is hearing pretty much everything in the village at all times. We know this is a just a passive ability since Yujo didn't activate -
(14h51m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - anything to use it, his ears are just that "well trained". So by Rakudo's logic this means Yujo must just be hearing an overwhelming probably buzzing screeching noise at all times. He's hearing everything so there's no way he be able to -
(14h48m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - pick anything out from the ruckus. If he wasn't just stricken deaf by this noise he's probably completely completely mad, there'd be no way he could sleep like that, he'd eventually just die from sleep deprivation Rakudo supposes. -
(14h45m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo -Shockingly Yujo's ability doesn't make any sense, man, it's only the 6th consecutive time that has happened. So while Yujo deals with the entire village of Konoha taking ice picks to his ear drums Rakudo would activate his Byakugan. -
(14h42m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - He did this to observe the Hokage building that Samehada seemed to be leading him to but the all-around vision it granted allowed him to see Kirk coming from the underground to just rob him for no reason. Lie, Cheat, and Steal, the Will of -
(14h39m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - Fire 2.0. Rakudo would active his Raiton no Yoroi and shunshin to the side. Being the/one of the fastest men alive did have its perks. He would snatch up Samehada as Kirk reached up at it with his grubby little fingers. This would happen -
(14h37m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - as Yujo, should he over come the blinding pain being rocketed into his ears, looked out the window, so the highest of high speed shunshins would take Rakudo out of the way of his Kamui attempt, since it was so small Rakudo would only need to -
(14h37m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - move very slightly to avoid it. Rakudo would have shunshined himself into an alley way, looking down at the ground where Kirk was. From this angle there would be no way Yujo could see him and launch another Kamui, several buildings were in -
(14h34m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - the way after all. Rakudo looked at the Kamui snapping shut where he had just been (assuming Yujo's ability to cast it) and Kirk's hand poking out of the ground and pointed an accusing finger at him, "What is WRONG with you people?!?"
(14h23m) <火> Uzumaki Yūjō begins to break this down slowly so that Rakudo could understand this, regardless of his lack of brains. (No Literally his brain is like gone. Read on!). So, moving on Rakudo firstly character controlled my character, with him making the (C)
(14h20m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo sits down with some popcorn, "Oh he's gonna try and explain things again, this is gonna be good."
(14h19m) <火> Uzumaki Yūjō (C) assumption that my 6 month RL time training in Oto with the Otokage, while leading the Sound ninja 5, wouldn't allow me to do the things described with my own ears, and all that writhing in pain nonsense, laughable character control. (C)
(14h16m) <火> Uzumaki Yūjō (C) Moving on, the Kamui tech would be shot off, would hit, and Rakudo did die, leaving a hole in the middle of his skull. With sight of this, Yujo shunshined to the dead body, formed a seal, and used the Uzumaki sealing technique to seal away (C)
(14h15m) <火> Uzumaki Yūjō (C) all of what was left of Rakudo. "Well, would you look at that? He kinda died, poor fella."
Rakudo
Yūjō
Uetto
SL's Main Protagonist and Savior
To summarize, Rakudo's first post is his entering of the village and searching/travelling to the Hokage Manor.
Yūjō's post is his super-hearing with selective sound-listening being used to hear and locate Rakudo. Then the attempted Kamui happens.
Uetto spawns from the ground like a spring flower, and attempts to grab Samehada.
Rakudo's second post accepts these above actions happening: Yūjō's super-hearing, Rakudo being within his direct line-of-sight (distance from the manor is debatable, but it's enough to where Yūjō can clearly see him), and Uetto sprouting. Some self-speculation takes up about 50-60% of the post. Byakugan activates and he attempts to dodge the Kamui and Uetto's arm.
Yūjō elaborates on his training with sound and Ototon, thereby confirming that his hearing is indeed that powerful and sound-selective.
The main meat of the problem is if Rakudo could have successfully escaped from the Kamui. The two biggest factors are Rakudo's speed and the sub-factors of Left Eye Kamui's effectiveness.
The speed at which something can be Kamui'd away is dependent on the distance it is from the user, and it's size. Kakashi has been shown to quickly warp away a nail being flung to his head in the Invasion of Pain arc, but he was also shown to struggle with warping away a Preta Path missle. Though he was very near-death and had to concentrate on a quickly-moving object (http://www.mangastream.to/naruto-chapter-424-page-16.html). He has also Kamui'd away two of Sasuke's Susanoo Arrows coming straight at him with almost-impossible-to-dodge speeds. (http://www.mangastream.to/naruto-chapter-484-page-6.html) In the Shinobi World War arc, he needed some time to gather enough chakra to concentrate and attempt to warp away the Gedo Mazo's head (http://www.mangastream.to/naruto-chapter-595-page-17.html). I'm not quite sure about there being a barrier being erected around the area to be Kamui'd, but only a visual distortion of space is shown in the desired area, with the object/thing is pulled into the center of it after the dependent time.
Rakudo's speed is dependent on his claim of it. He is the self-proclaimed fastest man alive, with his wikia profile stating that he is rumored to be almost as fast as anyone with Raiton no Yoroi active, without the Gates or his own active. It further goes on to say that the Sharingan will have a hard time to keep up with him, with his Gates active.
So it's basically broken down into Kamui/Sharingan speed and opponent's speed.
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If we're skipping the judge, Eric, then I'll post my opinion. Yujo has passive super hearing via Ototon. I saw you, Rakudo, argue that it'd make him go insane. I haven't read everything here but, if it hasn't been resolved yet, then see Superman.
Now, that that's out of the way and Yujo can hear you then you're hit. Why? Because he, with the Sharingan active, saw you, a rather large chakra source and source of the voice, and Kamui'd you. Kamui is, in fact, instantaneous on objects, people, etc. Kakashi was able to instantly warp away a nail, kunai, Tailed Beast, and Gedo Mazo arm. So, you -- a person who didn't have their Byukugan active -- would have been caught in the Kamui before you even knew it. Kirk's post happened AFTER Yujo performed his attacked as illustrated when Kirk posted, and I quote, "Unknowingly to Kirk Rakudo would seem to be in a bind himself.". So, with that bit of information you'd be hit. If you have any arguments regarding this then feel free to respond to this, but I'm fairly certain I've covered everything that was being disputed.
I wanted to post something similar to this.
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Well sense the hearing thing seems to be legit. If this level if hearing is indeed accustomed to Oto. I didn't know it was an ototon skill but rather just a physical skill he had.
The timing is key then. Roughly I am thinking that Yujo started to cast his Kamui, which is super fast, right as I start to spring my hand from the ground. Which at that time Rakudo would have been activating his Byakugan I believe them he would have to register everything, not his attention is drawn to the Hokage Mansion so if he is focusing his Byakugan there which it seemed he was doing then I'm not so sure if he would have the 360 vision. I am aware the Byakugan grants it but only to a degree when one is focusing to a certain area I don't think they are granted rather to when they focus to a radius around them. So I would have to think there would be a split second between him activating noting and then equipping the raiton and the shunshin. So that my grant Yujo the time to Kamui him. Hell even me the time to snatch the sword. I'm not sure if his Byakugan is an implant but I don't think it grants the 360 vision if so, the implant Byakugan we saw didn't do so I think. Hell I would question if one Byakugan eye grants such at all.
The biggest thing I question on Rakudo's part is the instant activation of two jutsu at the same time. Wasn't the Riakage already cloaked in Raiton before shunshin combo? Also didn't there use to be a rule to where you had to perform hand seals before using a shunshin in fights? Or was that just a courtesy thing... I k ow other sites have the rule that hand signs are needed for shunshin and substitution.
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Nathan kinda wrapped it up there. But Rakudo will inevitably refute it so ill reiterate everything in order from the battle, and this will end.
One: Rakudo entered the village and began following samehada down the street, make note that Rakudo in his post stated that samehada quickens his pace. He walks some more and makes the comment about he chakra.
Two: I hear him, the Ototon hearing is legit so just deal. I walk to the window, see him and immediately Kamui him, no pause no thought just Kamui.
Three: Kirk makes his post specific to being done after my move is already cast, not at the same time.
Four: Rakudo only moves to grab the sword which was only in danger after Kirk moved with was after my post. By the time he made any thought to grab the sword, the attack would have already gone through.
That's basically it, thank you for playing duck hunt!
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Allow me to chime in on the whole Ototon debate, in regards to hearing. At one point in my rp, I claimed godly hearing and so did past Otokage Hazama. However, this was due to a custom kg ability of melody release, which has been totally scrapped.
Sound users however are still granted superb hearing, but nothing close to what was done in the past. Alan and I revamped Ototon (Which Riku might not be aware about) and these are the listening techniques we developed.
http://narutoprofile.wikia.com/wiki/Auditory_Comprehension
http://narutoprofile.wikia.com/wiki/Sound_Release:_Hell%27s_Ears
The first one is supplementary and always in effect, second one is a technique. I didn't read the post, nor am I going to. Just thought I'd comment on how Ototon is being used currently. Based on the current situation, Yujo is at least using the first technique, and might be able to edit his post to use the second. This might be sufficent enough to hear Rakudo, idk since I didn't read it or know Konoha's layout.
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There hearing is the most ridiculous part of this whole joke. Serious it is completely unlegit. Let me try and explain why.
As Trev as shown us, yes there is a passive Ototon skill which increases the users hearing, and ability to hear, and filter the sounds possibly. However, he also stated it wasn't to the extent people had once abused.
Now lets look at the actual situation here. Rakudo walks into the village, Yujo is in the center of the village, easily a good few kilometers away. Now, how does Yujo being able to hear everything with in that radius of himself make an sense at all people? Really?
First of all, lets think for a moment, as Rakudo pointed out what would happen if he did listen to all of that all the time. How would he even have a normal conversation as he was at the time? 'Oh sorry, I can't hear you over the other thousand or so voices in my head guys.' So yeah, Rakudo would be spot on with the effects of what happens in that case. Also I like how Nathan tries to appeal to Superman here... really dude? Really? That's laughable.
'But wait! He can filter through, and just focus on Rakudo's voice!' Okay, makes sense... if he had a reason to focus on Rakudo, which he didn't. I'm pretty sure the barrier theory of why that might have alerted him to Rakudo has pretty much been shown to be stupid, even then in Yujo's post he acknowledged no reasoning as to why he heard, just he magically did. Perhaps Yujo filters through all the thousands of conversation at all points? Checks if there is anything worth hearing going on? That's complete rubbish too, the amount of processing power to do that would far exceed his tiny brain, and even if he could, what's the chances he would catch one little comment spoken far far away, with the crowds of the village all around him?
And lets not forget at the distances spoken hear, that sound which actually take a finite time to travel, so when Yujo heard this, Rakudo would have moved from the location at which he spoke it, doubtfully much, but still would have moved.
So there is a few reasons why the super hearing claims are complete and utter crap. I won't even start on the rest because once this is thrown out, there is no need to complete the others.
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Ummm... First off let me just point out that Rakudo would be picked up by the barrier and watched. The guy has attacked Konoha before after all. I fought him along with other SSM before while they were attacking. Therefor the data base would pick him up. Plus not to mention he is a Mist Shinobi which plays a key role in him being watched as well... I was the Head of Konoha's patrol guards the patrol guards play a major role in watching who enter via this barrier and visual means. My character dislikes and distrust Kiri, refer to your history books for that one. Therefor I had the patrol guards watch them closely even if I am not the chief anymore they follow the same ordeal I founded when I was. Plus Rakudo would have been noted the second he came to the gate via camera systems that monitor the gate, wall, and Mai street.
So I am sure that All the higher ups of Konoha could note his inten well just by the survanlance and the data base reason his facial expretions and lips which would be instantly wired to the minds of the high ups and the data systems of ANBU, pg, and root.
The moment you step foot at those gates you are being watched heavily. No matter who you are... And I you a SSM you can bet your sweet bottom you are being watched triple time.
Even without this hearing we all could note Rakudo being there and all. Even me as I may have went rogue but I still hold all the rights cause I was not stripped of them by Nathan yet plus I have direct contact to the data bases via the SGT.
Also I don't even think we have ever rped the Holage Mamsion to be kilometers away from the gate. And in all fairness I don't think Rakudo stated a certain distance from the building for use to say he is this far away.
Anyways. I still question the instant activation of ration no yoroi and shunshin simultaneously without a single hand seal being made.
If Yujo's Kamui is to void so should this combo of jutsu stacking in thin air I would have to believe. So both party should just compromise and void those two actions until they can be reworked for future events.
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There hearing is the most ridiculous part of this whole joke. Serious it is completely unlegit. Let me try and explain why.
As Trev as shown us, yes there is a passive Ototon skill which increases the users hearing, and ability to hear, and filter the sounds possibly. However, he also stated it wasn't to the extent people had once abused.
Now lets look at the actual situation here. Rakudo walks into the village, Yujo is in the center of the village, easily a good few kilometers away. Now, how does Yujo being able to hear everything with in that radius of himself make an sense at all people? Really?
First of all, lets think for a moment, as Rakudo pointed out what would happen if he did listen to all of that all the time. How would he even have a normal conversation as he was at the time? 'Oh sorry, I can't hear you over the other thousand or so voices in my head guys.' So yeah, Rakudo would be spot on with the effects of what happens in that case. Also I like how Nathan tries to appeal to Superman here... really dude? Really? That's laughable.
'But wait! He can filter through, and just focus on Rakudo's voice!' Okay, makes sense... if he had a reason to focus on Rakudo, which he didn't. I'm pretty sure the barrier theory of why that might have alerted him to Rakudo has pretty much been shown to be stupid, even then in Yujo's post he acknowledged no reasoning as to why he heard, just he magically did. Perhaps Yujo filters through all the thousands of conversation at all points? Checks if there is anything worth hearing going on? That's complete rubbish too, the amount of processing power to do that would far exceed his tiny brain, and even if he could, what's the chances he would catch one little comment spoken far far away, with the crowds of the village all around him?
And lets not forget at the distances spoken hear, that sound which actually take a finite time to travel, so when Yujo heard this, Rakudo would have moved from the location at which he spoke it, doubtfully much, but still would have moved.
So there is a few reasons why the super hearing claims are complete and utter crap. I won't even start on the rest because once this is thrown out, there is no need to complete the others.
Everything Kaito said.
Hearing everything around you super clear is all well and good, but being able to suddenly pick someone out because they are headed for you? Meta-gaming pure and simple. Maybe if Rakudo had yelled above the crowd to stand out it would make sense to focus on his voice, but all he did was talk to himself at a normal volume.
Hell, even if you could sense the Hachibi's chakra and go "oh shit, what's that chakra? I better focus my attention in that direction." It would take longer than what Yujo posted to find Rakudo, and then he would have missed what he had said entirely.
Honestly, I'm not even looking at what Kirk or Rakudo did in the posts because I can't get over how we're just letting this auditory thing slide.
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Like sai drop it this time and rework it to be a point that you have to focus to hear to that extent.
Like Yujo senses Rakudo, Yujo then focuses his Ototon skills to listen in on him. That would seem better to me.
But like I also said the two just need to compromise as activating two jutsu like that isn't really any better I think.
All I did was poke my hand out of the ground >.>
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Now keep in mind that i'm impartial here. If i'm in error, then so be it. Not here to flame or any other BS like that.
First off, this barrier. From what Nathan tells me, as well as the profile wiki entry, it will differentiate friend and foe alike(how it does or not is not in question. It simply does...). Simple as that. The whole business about it singling out Rakudo would be quite logical considering at the time of his post, he did not post anyone entering with him, and therefore would be on watch/detected by himself, which Yujo could take advantage of, giving him a reason to spot Rakudo and focus on him.
Second: The epic hearing. With the above point being stated, Yujo would focus on him due to being linked to the konoha barrier. Now according to Yujo, he was trained in the Ototon hearing which lets him hear over a village apparently. Trained for 6 RL months to get a correct duration of time. With that training duration, I'm assuming that one would be used to the overwhelming amount of voices, noises, etc and therefore would have lived past the disadvantage of having superman hearing, eliminating the fact that he would oh so suddenly be assaulted by every noise in the world. While, yes, it's rather outlandish to have such a range on anything, one cannot dispute training, else Rakudo would lose his "fastest man alive" title, Kirk would lose his character(or most of it anyway) etc...
Third: The kamui. From what I've picked up on the jutsu from the years on SL, kamui has always been considered instantaneous. The creation of the barrier is, at least. I might also mention that the escaping of the barrier, once concocted is impossible through most means. The closing of the space time barrier would be the part that takes time to use depending on the level of ability that the user boasts with the technique. Yujo would have that in the bag, considering he's GM of the Uchiha and his character has always had the ability, covering both the RP and in game aspects of the situation. Simply running out of the barrier would not suffice in escaping it.
If there's anything I missed, please inbox me and i'll edit the post, otherwise this is simply my input. If Yujo's post isn't legit, then a simple repost would be able to fix everything in my eyes.
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You know after I really think about it.
If that dog clan can smell up to a few miles and the Hyuuga can see for a few miles why can't the Ototon masters hear to a similar degree? It really isn't that far fetched.
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The issue isn't seeing/smelling mile-wide, but hearing village wide. There's nothing wrong with it, but it's a little hard to grasp. Unless a village is like 5 miles all around. It wouldn't be farfetched as everyone walks everywhere.
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The issue isn't seeing/smelling mile-wide, but hearing village wide. There's nothing wrong with it, but it's a little hard to grasp. Unless a village is like 5 miles all around. It wouldn't be farfetched as everyone walks everywhere.
The main argument is hearing all the sounds at once makes it void I think. But that doesn't stand if the dog people can smell up to a long distance. I mean wouldn't they be smelling a bunch of stuff to that the seem to be able to just ignore and all to locate that one smell. Really Yujo hearing Rakudo would be no different then a member of said clan smelling him from there.
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I'm honestly surprised you guys say that about Ototon, half the reason Ototon got revamped from the old way Yujo is using, is because of complaints.
I mean its still possible to hear hundreds of meters now, its just an advanced technique with a little prep work and not on auto-pilot like the minor supplementary technique.
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I peeked at this on my phone at work to try and keep up and from what I have been reading my whole post is hinging on when Kirk's actions take place. According to Nathan this,
"Unknowingly to Kirk Rakudo would seem to be in a bind himself."
somehow infers Kirk's actions take place after Yujo's. I don't see how though. That seems to be inferring Kirk is acting at the same time as Yujo. Because he doesn't know that I am being attacked.
Some additional stuff too, Yujo cannot benefit from info from the barrier at this time as far as I see. He did not mention the barrier or information gleaned from it in his post when he attempted to Kamui me, so he has to work with sound alone.
I activated my Byakugan probably as Yujo was walking to the window, I said I shunshined right as he looked out, so Byakugan had to be before that, I think Kage or someone said I activated them right as I got Kamui'd, which is not the case.
(Continuing into a second post)
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SO HERE IS WHAT HAPPENS IN MY POST
I activate my Byakugan, Yujo is walking toward the window, Kirk is under the ground beneath me.
My intent is to zoom in on the Hokage mansion (I have two Byakugan eyes and my Rinnegan in my Third Eye Technique FYI Kirk) but since I get my 360 vision when I activate them I see Kirk coming up toward Samehada, so I Raiton Shunshin to grab Samehada and get out of the way before he can touch it, which causes me to be moving as Yujo looks out the window to Kamui me.
Here is where it gets fun, as I found out we are literally on opposite ends of the village from one another. So lets hypothetically say Konoha is a mere mile wide.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-D3eBLVbVoFo/Ubd8JzuLhbI/AAAAAAAABaU/WG_pbSIXGno/s1600/001.1.jpg)
That my friends is several man sharpshooting at targets that are 5/8th of a mile away. The targets are those teeny white things all the way in the background. Still not as far as me and Yujo in our hypothetical scenario. Now we all know Konoha is larger than one mile wide. So, who here can honestly say (other than Yujo) that Yujo can hit one of the fastest possible moving targets with a Kamui the size of a BASEBALL at, lets modestly say, double that distance. He's really gonna no scope head shot me there? Really?
I am moving BEFORE, the Kamui hits me, that is why I am saying I avoid it. Yujo has to move his eyes to my head, and at the point I am already moving. Increase the distance in that pic by two or three times and then for good measure shoot the targets out of a cannon perpendicularly away from the shooter.
Is there REALLY anyone here heavily lobotomized enough to say that "Oh yeah he's got you dead to rights man." Nathan? Yujo? Kirk? Anyone? REALLY?!?
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SO HERE IS WHAT HAPPENS IN MY POST
I activate my Byakugan, Yujo is walking toward the window, Kirk is under the ground beneath me.
My intent is to zoom in on the Hokage mansion (I have two Byakugan eyes and my Rinnegan in my Third Eye Technique FYI Kirk) but since I get my 360 vision when I activate them I see Kirk coming up toward Samehada, so I Raiton Shunshin to grab Samehada and get out of the way before he can touch it, which causes me to be moving as Yujo looks out the window to Kamui me.
Here is where it gets fun, as I found out we are literally on opposite ends of the village from one another. So lets hypothetically say Konoha is a mere mile wide.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-D3eBLVbVoFo/Ubd8JzuLhbI/AAAAAAAABaU/WG_pbSIXGno/s1600/001.1.jpg)
That my friends is several man sharpshooting at targets that are 5/8th of a mile away. The targets are those teeny white things all the way in the background. Still not as far as me and Yujo in our hypothetical scenario. Now we all know Konoha is larger than one mile wide. So, who here can honestly say (other than Yujo) that Yujo can hit one of the fastest possible moving targets with a Kamui the size of a BASEBALL at, lets modestly say, double that distance. He's really gonna no scope head shot me there? Really?
I am moving BEFORE, the Kamui hits me, that is why I am saying I avoid it. Yujo has to move his eyes to my head, and at the point I am already moving. Increase the distance in that pic by two or three times and then for good measure shoot the targets out of a cannon perpendicularly away from the shooter.
Is there REALLY anyone here heavily lobotomized enough to say that "Oh yeah he's got you dead to rights man." Nathan? Yujo? Kirk? Anyone? REALLY?!?
(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd101/sweetsyren/Gifs%20and%20Macros/Random/IntenseHandClap.gif) The fact that you managed to do that from your phone is commendable by my flip phone standards. Oh, and it makes some sense too, that's a plus. :P
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I think the Byakugan is pinpointed to where you are focusing not shifted. I have noted Neji looking I'm other locations then the 360 degrees upon activation. So if you focus was to the Hokage Mansion I would have to think the would be a slight delay in you noticing my arm and doing your instant combo jutsu activation. Perhaps enough time to give Yujo for the Kamui. Really if you are focused else where you aren't gonna react as fast to my arm.
Also my arm should be starting to spring about the time Yujo is looking out the window. He did so right after I left the office and you would be entering through the gates while I was starting to leave I do believe.
Now as for the location that you were at when this happened well I don't get you being at the gate out of this. It is hard to argue location when you didn't state in your post exactly, but rather you are moving along the Main Street. Really if you and the sword are dashing towards the building then you have probably covered a good bit of area between the gate and the building seeing as you two are fast no doubt.
So you entered the village whiles I'm talking to them in the office, your sword being with you was a repost remember that. You had already started dashing down the road while I'm still in the office. Then I leave while Yujo is making his way to the window. By this time I would think your dashing has place you closer to the building. I didn't intercept your dash near the gate nor did Yujo note to spot you there but rather in the street. It would be meta-gaming if I wasn't rising from the ground after you had already been running to the building. Them I rose from the ground unknowningly to the fact you yourself were in a bind, meaning you were already being targeted by an instant Kamui. So as you activate your Buskugan that would originally be focused towards the Hokage building you would be Kamuied. I think that places the Kamui before the raiton shunshin.
I went and re-read it all to draw that conclusion. To argue location is not valid without your post having said that you were at such and such location. That's just something I believe in though.
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SO HERE IS WHAT HAPPENS IN MY POST
I activate my Byakugan, Yujo is walking toward the window, Kirk is under the ground beneath me.
My intent is to zoom in on the Hokage mansion (I have two Byakugan eyes and my Rinnegan in my Third Eye Technique FYI Kirk) but since I get my 360 vision when I activate them I see Kirk coming up toward Samehada, so I Raiton Shunshin to grab Samehada and get out of the way before he can touch it, which causes me to be moving as Yujo looks out the window to Kamui me.
Here is where it gets fun, as I found out we are literally on opposite ends of the village from one another. So lets hypothetically say Konoha is a mere mile wide.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-D3eBLVbVoFo/Ubd8JzuLhbI/AAAAAAAABaU/WG_pbSIXGno/s1600/001.1.jpg)
That my friends is several man sharpshooting at targets that are 5/8th of a mile away. The targets are those teeny white things all the way in the background. Still not as far as me and Yujo in our hypothetical scenario. Now we all know Konoha is larger than one mile wide. So, who here can honestly say (other than Yujo) that Yujo can hit one of the fastest possible moving targets with a Kamui the size of a BASEBALL at, lets modestly say, double that distance. He's really gonna no scope head shot me there? Really?
I am moving BEFORE, the Kamui hits me, that is why I am saying I avoid it. Yujo has to move his eyes to my head, and at the point I am already moving. Increase the distance in that pic by two or three times and then for good measure shoot the targets out of a cannon perpendicularly away from the shooter.
Is there REALLY anyone here heavily lobotomized enough to say that "Oh yeah he's got you dead to rights man." Nathan? Yujo? Kirk? Anyone? REALLY?!?
(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd101/sweetsyren/Gifs%20and%20Macros/Random/IntenseHandClap.gif) The fact that you managed to do that from your phone is commendable by my flip phone standards. Oh, and it makes some sense too, that's a plus. :P
Does everything from his phone 8)
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Except Yujo posted hearing me, and I spoke to Samehada just as we began walking into the village. He said it took him two seconds to walk over and Kamui me. So we wouldn't even have begun to really move. Yujo retro posted me and I am using that to my advantage.
I know you are saying you used Mayfly or whatever, but here is thing, you didn't say what effect it would have. All you said was "your transportation technique", and that means nothing to me. I see you with my Byakugan under the ground before Yujo casts his Kamui. I have to activate the Byakugan before I can focus on the mansion, so I would see you as soon as I do. If you had said something like "Uetto moves up through the ground toward Samehada, and would not be detectable by Rakudo until he breached the surface", you would have me, but you didn't do that.
Like I said too there is no clear indication of the chronology here, you seem to be acting in sync with Yujo as it seems to me. My post is preempting both of you essentially.
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SO HERE IS WHAT HAPPENS IN MY POST
I activate my Byakugan, Yujo is walking toward the window, Kirk is under the ground beneath me.
My intent is to zoom in on the Hokage mansion (I have two Byakugan eyes and my Rinnegan in my Third Eye Technique FYI Kirk) but since I get my 360 vision when I activate them I see Kirk coming up toward Samehada, so I Raiton Shunshin to grab Samehada and get out of the way before he can touch it, which causes me to be moving as Yujo looks out the window to Kamui me.
Here is where it gets fun, as I found out we are literally on opposite ends of the village from one another. So lets hypothetically say Konoha is a mere mile wide.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-D3eBLVbVoFo/Ubd8JzuLhbI/AAAAAAAABaU/WG_pbSIXGno/s1600/001.1.jpg)
That my friends is several man sharpshooting at targets that are 5/8th of a mile away. The targets are those teeny white things all the way in the background. Still not as far as me and Yujo in our hypothetical scenario. Now we all know Konoha is larger than one mile wide. So, who here can honestly say (other than Yujo) that Yujo can hit one of the fastest possible moving targets with a Kamui the size of a BASEBALL at, lets modestly say, double that distance. He's really gonna no scope head shot me there? Really?
I am moving BEFORE, the Kamui hits me, that is why I am saying I avoid it. Yujo has to move his eyes to my head, and at the point I am already moving. Increase the distance in that pic by two or three times and then for good measure shoot the targets out of a cannon perpendicularly away from the shooter.
Is there REALLY anyone here heavily lobotomized enough to say that "Oh yeah he's got you dead to rights man." Nathan? Yujo? Kirk? Anyone? REALLY?!?
(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd101/sweetsyren/Gifs%20and%20Macros/Random/IntenseHandClap.gif) The fact that you managed to do that from your phone is commendable by my flip phone standards. Oh, and it makes some sense too, that's a plus. :P
Alright there are some key variables you are ignoring.
First off I seriously doubt that either of those sharp-shooters have a Doujutsu, let alone the Sharingan. They have the Optic vision of a naked mole rat in comparison. Furthermore, They lack the the high vantage point of the Hokage mansion.
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Except Yujo posted hearing me, and I spoke to Samehada just as we began walking into the village. He said it took him two seconds to walk over and Kamui me. So we wouldn't even have begun to really move. Yujo retro posted me and I am using that to my advantage.
I know you are saying you used Mayfly or whatever, but here is thing, you didn't say what effect it would have. All you said was "your transportation technique", and that means nothing to me. I see you with my Byakugan under the ground before Yujo casts his Kamui. I have to activate the Byakugan before I can focus on the mansion, so I would see you as soon as I do. If you had said something like "Uetto moves up through the ground toward Samehada, and would not be detectable by Rakudo until he breached the surface", you would have me, but you didn't do that.
Like I said too there is no clear indication of the chronology here, you seem to be acting in sync with Yujo as it seems to me. My post is preempting both of you essentially.
No I was going by the timing of my action of rising my hand is all. Going off how I saw the event playing out is all.
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Well he's inside the building looking out a window soooo
(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd226/Uchiha-Ryuusuke/Konohagakure/830px-Hokage_Residence.png)
LOOK OUT! He's like 50 feet in the air! And the Sharingan does not give any kind of telescopic vision like the Byakugan does, his Sharigan isn't going to really help him in the long range situation he is in. I'm still gonna be like 2 miles away and practically impossible to see.
I don't know what else to tell you Kirk, I activated my Byakugan and acted before your hand breached the surface or Yujo launched his Kamui, that is all there is too it really.
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I'm not picking sides here what so ever, because this can go back and forth forever since both parties are at fault or messed up along the way.
But didn't Rakudo post after? If he did, I'm pretty sure that's saying he accepted what happened to him in Yujo's post. Even though the logic can flawed, Rakudo posted when he should have disputed what happened to him on the spot.
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I'm not picking sides here what so ever, because this can go back and forth forever since both parties are at fault or messed up along the way.
But didn't Rakudo post after? If he did, I'm pretty sure that's saying he accepted what happened to him in Yujo's post. Even though the logic can flawed, Rakudo posted when he should have disputed what happened to him on the spot.
I posted dodging his attack yes, that is what is currently being disputed. My post. I'm defending myself here.
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(14h42m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - He did this to observe the Hokage building that Samehada seemed to be leading him to but the all-around vision it granted allowed him to see Kirk coming from the underground to just rob him for no reason.
I wasn't aware that Byakugan was so mighty that it could see through Kirk's usage of the Mayfly technique.
Using this technique he can conceal himself in such things as trees and even sand. Once merged, his presence is completely concealed, making it almost impossible to detect him, even for sensor type ninja like Karin.
Straight from the wikipedia, It's something that I thought I should point out.
Then again mistakes are coming from both sides in my opinion and I don't see why you two can't work it out in a friendly manner.
Edit; I also went and reviewed the new Bijuu rules and I thought one of the new guidelines was to apply the notions of real-time travel from point A to B? Traveling from point A (Kirigakure) to point B (Konohagakure) and should at least take a day by the means that I witnessed from Rakudo...unless I am missing something here? (Clay Birds)
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Like I already said Kirk never mentioned that was the jutsu he was using, and there are about half a dozen that let you move through the ground. I already mentioned this Kamui, his post did nothing to say that I could not see him with my Byakugan.
Well since i have to deal with the entire village of Konoha meta gaming me because I posted I suggest they have to deal with me flying there since they posted and accepted me doing it.
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Literally No ^ xD Good try though.
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Literally No ^ xD Good try though.
Good counter argument. Your ears must be burning from my hateful logic.
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Then again mistakes are coming from both sides in my opinion and I don't see why you two can't work it out in a friendly manner.
I stand by my previous statement. :oops:
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Then again mistakes are coming from both sides in my opinion and I don't see why you two can't work it out in a friendly manner.
I stand by my previous statement. :oops:
I don't know why you brought it up then .-.
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Just to make note, the distance from the village gates to the Hokages manor, is roughly 1200 yards. Which equates to 6 tenths of a mile, and Rakudo had done some walking before I decided to quick scope him CoD style. Regardless of such my hearing is legit, Rakudo is trying oh so desperately to survive, which is understandable, but completely dishonourable, and the response Rakudo made in his post was to Kirks actions which was stated to have simply happened after I shot off my kamui, again that cannot be disputed. Rakudo only made response to his incoming peril when the sword was in danger, as he had no way of knowing the Kamui was coming. And as posted multiple times before, Kirk made his post after my tech was shot off. And just in case you all were wondering, yes, I am actually that Leet of a Sniper.
" Unknowingly to Kirk Rakudo would seem to be in a bind himself."
He did this to observe the Hokage building that Samehada seemed to be leading him to ((but the all-around vision it granted allowed him to see Kirk)) coming from the underground to just rob him for no reason. Lie, Cheat, and Steal, the Will of -
(14h39m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - Fire 2.0. Rakudo would active his Raiton no Yoroi and shunshin to the side. Being the/one of the fastest men alive did have its perks. ((He would snatch up Samehada as Kirk reached up at it with his grubby little fingers.))
Again some clarification of how the turn of events went, as posted by Rakudo, and Kirk, those of which posted after my post had already happened. From here on, I literally quoted everything applicable and made it relevant.
Kanji 神威
Rōmaji Kamui
Literal English Authority of the Gods
Games Divine Threat, Transportation Ninjutsu
Other Space–Time Migration[2] (時空間移動, Jikūkan Idō)
Debut
Manga Chapter #276
Anime Naruto Shippūden Episode #29
Movie Naruto Shippūden 3: Inheritors of the Will of Fire
Game Naruto Shippūden: Ultimate Ninja 5
OVA Naruto Shippūden: UNSG anime cutscenes
Appears in Anime, Manga, Game and Movie
Data
Classification Mangekyō Sharingan, Kekkei Genkai, Ninjutsu, Dōjutsu, Space–Time Ninjutsu, Barrier Ninjutsu
Class Offensive, Defensive, Supplementary
Range All ranges
Space–Time Ninjutsu (時空間忍術, Jikūkan Ninjutsu; English TV "Teleportation Ninjutsu" or "Transportation Techniques"; Literally meaning "Time–Space Ninja Techniques")[1] are techniques that allow the users to manipulate the space–time continuum. By manipulating a specific point of space, the user can warp anything targeted into a dimensional void and teleport it to another location ((instantaneously)). {How fast is that again?}
Barrier Ninjutsu (結界忍術, Kekkai Ninjutsu; Literally meaning "Barrier Ninja Techniques") is the incorporation of barriers into techniques. Essentially these techniques allow the users to manipulate barriers. The user can erect barriers that can be used to protect themselves, or to trap an opponent, amongst other various uses. ((Kamui is a barrier type jutsu as well as it is space time, you literally cannot just waltz out of a barrier jutsu.))
"Only Minato Namikaze's Flying Thunder God Technique,[3] and Naruto Uzumaki while in his Nine-Tails Chakra Mode are faster than A at his maximum speed, with the armour's maximum power.[4]" ((Don't think Rakudo is after that Nine tails chakra mode, or Hiraishin LOL))
Just to make note, the distance from the village gates to the Hokages manor, is roughly 1200 yards. Which equates to 6 tenths of a mile, and Rakudo had done some walking before I decided to quick scope him CoD style. Regardless of such my hearing is legit, Rakudo is trying oh so desperately to survive, which is understandable, but completely dishonourable, and the response Rakudo made in his post was to Kirks actions which was stated to have simply happened after I shot off my kamui, again that cannot be disputed. Rakudo only made response to his incoming peril when the sword was in danger, as he had no way of knowing the Kamui was coming. And as posted multiple times before, Kirk made his post after my tech was shot off. And just in case you all were wondering, yes, I am actually that Leet of a Sniper.
" Unknowingly to Kirk Rakudo would seem to be in a bind himself."
He did this to observe the Hokage building that Samehada seemed to be leading him to ((but the all-around vision it granted allowed him to see Kirk)) coming from the underground to just rob him for no reason. Lie, Cheat, and Steal, the Will of -
(14h39m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - Fire 2.0. Rakudo would active his Raiton no Yoroi and shunshin to the side. Being the/one of the fastest men alive did have its perks. ((He would snatch up Samehada as Kirk reached up at it with his grubby little fingers.))
Kanji 神威
Rōmaji Kamui
Literal English Authority of the Gods
Games Divine Threat, Transportation Ninjutsu
Other Space–Time Migration[2] (時空間移動, Jikūkan Idō)
Debut
Manga Chapter #276
Anime Naruto Shippūden Episode #29
Movie Naruto Shippūden 3: Inheritors of the Will of Fire
Game Naruto Shippūden: Ultimate Ninja 5
OVA Naruto Shippūden: UNSG anime cutscenes
Appears in Anime, Manga, Game and Movie
Data
Classification Mangekyō Sharingan, Kekkei Genkai, Ninjutsu, Dōjutsu, Space–Time Ninjutsu, Barrier Ninjutsu
Class Offensive, Defensive, Supplementary
Range All ranges
Space–Time Ninjutsu (時空間忍術, Jikūkan Ninjutsu; English TV "Teleportation Ninjutsu" or "Transportation Techniques"; Literally meaning "Time–Space Ninja Techniques")[1] are techniques that allow the users to manipulate the space–time continuum. By manipulating a specific point of space, the user can warp anything targeted into a dimensional void and teleport it to another location ((instantaneously)). {How fast is that again?}
Barrier Ninjutsu (結界忍術, Kekkai Ninjutsu; Literally meaning "Barrier Ninja Techniques") is the incorporation of barriers into techniques. Essentially these techniques allow the users to manipulate barriers. The user can erect barriers that can be used to protect themselves, or to trap an opponent, amongst other various uses. ((Kamui is a barrier type jutsu as well as it is space time, you literally cannot just waltz out of a barrier jutsu.))
"Only Minato Namikaze's Flying Thunder God Technique,[3] and Naruto Uzumaki while in his Nine-Tails Chakra Mode are faster than A at his maximum speed, with the armour's maximum power.[4]" ((Don't think Rakudo is after that Nine tails chakra mode, or Hiraishin LOL))
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Just to make note, the distance from the village gates to the Hokages manor, is roughly 1200 yards. Which equates to 6 tenths of a mile.
Source please.
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Kamui- As in the First Hokage of SL, the Mod guy, ya know.
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Kamui- As in the First Hokage of SL, the Mod guy, ya know.
I'm almost done commenting on here, but hasn't it been awhile since Kamui was in charge? Not to mention the village has been renovated several times since he last paid a visit. Granted, I'm not arguing that the gates and the residence are miles apart, I'm just wondering where an approximation of 1200 yards comes from.
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So basically Yujo's entire strategy is character controlling Kirk and saying his actions happens after Yujo's. There's nothing to suggest that though, post order is not chronological order, the NORM would be everyone within one round of posting is acting at the same time.
Can someone explain to me how Kirk posting "He didn't know Rakudo was in trouble." means he doesn't do anything till after Yujo?
Yujo retro posted to attack me during essentially the first 1/4 of my post, so I am doing the same thing in defense. I see Kirk under the ground before he reaches my sword and before Yujo launches his Kamui.
There's nothing explicitly stating in Kirk's post that "Uetto takes no actions until after Yujo." so by saying they take place previous to the Kamui allowing me to dodge is just taking advantage of the lack of details.
So basically Yujo is character controlling Kirk, meta-gaming to hit me, and god modding to say his attack cannot be dodged.
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I suggest we go with the 1,200 yards thing -- which is probably a rough estimate -- because otherwise I get to say where it is because I was the last to rebuild it. Also, this is going nowhere and Rakudo is just trying to argue every little thing he can from what I can tell. I told Yujo to get a judge and resolve this, but he told me Rakudo refused. So, unless you want to further waste your time, just ignore both of them until they get a judge.
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^ Just get a judge and be done with it.
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My statement was unknowningly to myself you (Rakudo) would be in a pinch. Meaning that you would already be being targeted by Kamui while I sprung to grab your sword.
You posted said you noted me to be coming from the ground which to me makes it seem my hand had already broke the surface.
Really if you argue that Yujo meta-gamed you by hearing you randomly than I could very well argue your all the sudden and random activation of the Byakugan that just so allowed you to note me grabbing at your sword is meta-gaming as well.
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If training means nothing, then pie is cake, and cake is pizza, because this makes no sense.
Pizzas are pies, mate.
P.S. You guys remember when Amaterasu was considered instant?
Because the Raikage don't give a duck about that claim.
(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/129915/3310213-1950769482-33c3u.jpg)
So, I'm sure we can say the same for Kamui.
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If training means nothing, then pie is cake, and cake is pizza, because this makes no sense.
Pizzas are pies, mate.
P.S. You guys remember when Amaterasu was considered instant?
Because the Raikage don't give a duck about that claim.
(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/129915/3310213-1950769482-33c3u.jpg)
So, I'm sure we can say the same for Kamui.
Except Kamui is Space-Time Ninjutsu and Amaterasu is just fire. Not only that, but it hasn't been proven to not be instant yet whereas Amaterasu has. So far the only sure fire way of escaping it is with another space-time technique.
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So far the only sure fire way of escaping it is with another space-time technique.
hur hur
> not instant
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So far the only sure fire way of escaping it is with another space-time technique.
hur hur
> not instant
is with another space-time technique.
Another INSTANTANEOUS TECHNIQUE. < There I made it all caps for you so you could understand.
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My statement was unknowningly to myself you (Rakudo) would be in a pinch. Meaning that you would already be being targeted by Kamui while I sprung to grab your sword.
You posted said you noted me to be coming from the ground which to me makes it seem my hand had already broke the surface.
Really if you argue that Yujo meta-gamed you by hearing you randomly than I could very well argue your all the sudden and random activation of the Byakugan that just so allowed you to note me grabbing at your sword is meta-gaming as well.
Except I told you my legitimate IC reason to activate my Byakugan (other than to counter Konoha's two pronged meta-gaming attack). But Kirk just proved my post is legit.
So I'm being Kamui'd as Kirk reaches out of the ground for my sword. As Yujo would be happy to tell you Kamui takes effect in like 1/1000000000000000000000th of a second so lets, 2 seconds earlier, Kirk is still within the ground, coming towards me, AND I'M NOT BEING KAMUI'D YET. He didn't Hiraishin under the ground just beneath my feet and grab at my sword after all. So I dash with Raiton no Yoroi grab my sword and am out of the way before Yujo launches his Kamui. Before. Befooooore.
BEFOOOOOOOOORE
be·fore
biˈfôr/Submit
preposition, conjunction, & adverb
1.
during the period of time preceding (a particular event, date, or time).
I'm not sure I can stress that enough, because people don't seem to understand what that word means and keep saying you can't escape a Kamui without space time jutsu after being hit which is fine and dandy, but it didn't hit me. It would essentially be like the image Rai just posted but with a Kamui hitting my after image instead of Amaterasu.
It's funny (and incredibly predictable) that Nathan is being a complete hypocrite though. During my zone fight with him for the 4 tails he claimed he could BLOCK my Kamui targeted at him, because he was throwing a kunai and shadow cloning it as I Kamui'd him, and one of the kunai multiplied FASTER THAN I COULD KAMUI NATHAN, and just coincidentally appeared over the exact spot on his body that I was focusing on and blocked my Kamui. This was approved by Kyu too, so we know you can defend against Kamui. So it wasn't instant enough to kill Nathan, but it's instant enough to kill me as I dodge out of the way before it is even launched.
I'd say I'm surprised, but that would be a lie. Every Leaf ninja I have had to fight besides Eric and (tentatively) Kirk has pretty much acted as scummy as possible to win. Same thing you guys are doing now, and it's embarrassment to you. I feel that way and I know others do to, another Leaf ninja messaged me earlier apologizing to me for the way you guys are acting, saying it made him sad to be a Konoha nin.
I know you guys don't care though. Just keep telling yourself that I'm Bocch, that everything you do to me is justified because of who you believe I am. That's fine, I know a lot of other people who act that way too.
Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats or views other people with fear, distrust, hatred, contempt, or intolerance on the basis of a person's opinion, ethnicity, race, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, disability, socioeconomic status, or other characteristics.
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. described bigotry in the following quotation: "The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract."
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The fight between me and you: Bansho Tenin > Kamui > Not even hundred feet away from each other.
Your fight with Yujo: Kamui > No Bykugan or anyway to see it's coming > pretty far away.
You're just grasping for straws and trying to nitpick every little detail whilst calling out anyone you can. You're laughable just like you were when you fought me. Going back to ignoring you now.
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The fight between me and you: Bansho Tenin > Kamui > Not even hundred feet away from each other.
Your fight with Yujo: Kamui > No Bykugan or anyway to see it's coming > pretty far away.
You're just grasping for straws and trying to nitpick every little detail whilst calling out anyone you can. You're laughable just like you were when you fought me. Going back to ignoring you now.
I had a judges decision telling you to post, and you wouldn't post, and the community was in agreement that you were going to be stripped of the 4 tails until you gave it to me to "avoid trouble."
So yeah ignore me because I'm not afraid to call you out on your nonsense. Ignore, run, it's what you do, it's what cowards do, same difference really.
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Isn't a Leaf Nin nor am I taking sides like I said before. I saw fault on Yujo's hearing along with you shunshin. That's why I said this
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I just thought that you where on the same basis as Yujo with the random Byakugan activation. I understand you activated it to spy on the building but that should have drew your attention there no to me. I still don't think the dojutsu automatic makes you use the 360 vision as Neji activated it with out using that feature I do believe.
However. I'm not trying to void anything. To be honest I'd rather see you to just meet on a common ground of some sort and we get back to rp. The whole reason I did my actions was to create interest and tension. I don't see my having meta-gamed you Rakudo as I did my action after you had performed all actions in your post and I had already declared war on Konoha and headed to the Main Street to spice things up.
I'm not sure if your words were directed to me or not but it seemed so. However, I think the said thing is that Yujo and you can't come to some sort of agreement among each other without having to run to the forum. It's had become a lost tradition at SL to compromise on subjects. You are aware you and I already came to an agreement on the shunshin objection I had.
In the end I'm not out to get you. And to be honest I hope you are Boccy old boy truthfully cause I liked and got along with Bocc rather well in all honesty. Or characters didn't and we often had disagreements on subjects but I seemed to always have been able to talk with Bocc in pm and solve our issues
Stop trying to be so above everyone and just start having fun again. So what you two disagree just say hey I'll say my Kamui missed and you say you made a bad step and stubbed your toe a bit noticing you just did escape certain death. Then guess what!!! This may sound crazy but you two get to rp more and have fun duke it out.
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I want to continue this, trust me I do, and I do have fun, I had a lot of fun with Kamui and I will be having a lot of fun again with Tsuyo once this stops taking up all my time. There are people here who refuse to have fun though, and just want to troll or be ignorant.
Nathan is still talking as if I haven't explained my order of actions a dozen times "No Bykugan or anyway to see it's coming" I've said over and over again I am dodging Kirk and this makes the Kamui miss, but there he is, still saying this. I can't claim to understand why some people go out of their way to be so vitriolic.
I'm not sure what kind of damage you want me to take since the Kamui is the only thing coming at me but if we can continue this rp I say lets talk about it.
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Why not void the entire thing completely and then you guys just start over?
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Just please get a judge, or get a compromise going (seems unlikely).
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The sooner you guys get this worked out the sooner you can all die ;D
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I was serious, how do we 50-50 this one? xD He's trying to punch a hole through my head and one shot kill me, it seems like an all or nothing kind of deal.
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50-50 would be like you barely dodging the attack and losing your hand or part of your arm or something.
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50-50 would be like you barely dodging the attack and losing your hand or part of your arm or something.
That would work I suppose.
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Or your virginity. You could loss that :eek:
Nah, I'd say you loss an ear or something along those lines. Maybe you just loss your sword to me?
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Or your virginity. You could loss that :eek:
Nah, I'd say you loss an ear or something along those lines. Maybe you just loss your sword to me?
That would be better than the arm. Much subtle, Kirk.
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None of this compromise nonsense will be taking place, all of you just deal with that for a second. As Rakudo said, there is no comprimise to this situation, nor will I allow any suggestion here to be placed in this RP concerning a compromise. There is no either or. Rakudo refused a judge, so at this point the only thing we can do is have the community decide.
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None of this compromise nonsense will be taking place, all of you just deal with that for a second. As Rakudo said, there is no comprimise to this situation, nor will I allow any suggestion here to be placed in this RP concerning a compromise. There is no either or. Rakudo refused a judge, so at this point the only thing we can do is have the community decide.
You mean what I said immediately before people pointed out what a good compromise would be? I think the community is all game for a compromise to get this going.
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I'd rather take a community vote on this, majority will rule. Something like that. A judge is still a viable option, if you are up for it. But no compromise, there is no logical one.
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None of this compromise nonsense will be taking place, all of you just deal with that for a second. As Rakudo said, there is no comprimise to this situation, nor will I allow any suggestion here to be placed in this RP concerning a compromise. There is no either or. Rakudo refused a judge, so at this point the only thing we can do is have the community decide.
You mean what I said immediately before people pointed out what a good compromise would be? I think the community is all game for a compromise to get this going.
Agreed.
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In light of that last decision: I will spill my opinions as this has pissed me off with all of the absolute falsehoods flying about.
This may sound a bit rude~. For those of you afraid of having hurt feelings, I suggest not reading the following.
The straight facts of the matter are, without any room for error:
-Rakudo enters the village, mutters something, begins dashing
-Yujo hears him from stated 1200 yards away, somewhere above the ground in the hokage's building, and turns around to look at him from a perfectly placed window while activating mangekyo, looks directly at him, and shoots a spot-on kamui set to insta-kill on it's now described as 'instant' contact. He makes all these moves in two seconds.
-Uetto pops up from the ground. And attempts to touch the sword to insta-poof it to his base.
-Rakudo calls out Yujo. Yujo calls out Rakudo. Here we all are.
I do have to congratulate you all on how quickly things explode.
So the main problem is that as soon as Rakudo says something Yujo turns and puts a hole in his head. Apparently he has to accept that Yujo has the ability to hear sound waves that probably wouldn't even reach him, let alone be intelligible enough for a bat to pick up on even if it somehow got that far, all because he made another post afterwards. Good, if that's the way it works, I name myself Grand Poobah of SL and if someone makes another post then this can't be argued.
Next is the Byakugan. Rakudo activates this in the follow-up fighty post in where he 'accepts' that Yujo is Jesus and hears your every thought. Saying the reason being he wanted to go long range window shopping. This is passable, although not the best excuse in the world. So he sees Kirk.
Kirk, the Byakugan has almost 360 degree vision. It doesn't need focus. That would render it pointless and just make it a neat party trick. However, you did come up from the ground, and the same trick caught Neji off guard in the chunin fight against Naruto, so you two can work out exactly what happened there.
Rakudo then dodges Jesus's kamui. Although, he actually said he was moving out of the way of Kirk and Kamui missed.
That last part is the reason this has hit six pages.
So Zeus fires his Kamui at a moving target. Assuming he was going to hit by the force of magic exactly where Rakudo would have ended up with his 'baseball sized' attack, had Rakudo kept going at that rate, Kirk actually, with his little antic, would have screwed this up. Uetto's disturbance, no matter what effect it's going to have, would have slowed Rakudo down even a little or, seeing what Rakudo wanted to do, would have changed his course completely. Even if it was an 'instant' attack, had the sights not been lined up correctly, it won't hit. This is not point blank range, even a little alteration of the target's motion would have messed it up.
Also, let's clear up what 'instant' means. It means there is no time between when it happens and when the user did it.
With these in mind I conclude that this Kamui is not at all legitimate for two reasons.
1. There would be no reaction time. Not only is that godmodding, but the series even proves that wrong as a hirashin dodged it. In fact, we get that cool little spiral effect whenever it is used, which wouldn't happen if the effects were 'instant'. Unless you're claiming that only the inescapable barrier it pulls you into is instant, although hey, look at that, still no reaction time and I'm fairly certain that's wrong. Logic doesn't work on proving negatives, by the way. Asking someone "Prove it isn't instant" isn't how it works, you are supposed to prove that it is. Either way...
2. More importantly, IT WAS FIRED IN 'A MICROSECOND' WITH VERY SKETCHY METHODS OF HIT CONFIRMATION. This isn't even a no scope. This is a 'randomly fire into a crowd and hope you got the guy you were aiming for' except the crowd is atleast a half mile away and you weren't even looking at it a few seconds ago. He almost literally turned around and fired a gun from a high altitude based on the 'sound of someone wanting a bijuu' and he did this in 2 seconds. I don't care how skilled you are, how lucky you are, how magic you are, you are more likely to completely miss and hit old man Jenkins with this method than get anywhere near your target. Better yet, this isn't even a gun, it's 'special eyes', which surely would have had to take a few moments to even get a good view of the target below the window which we turned to face in less than two seconds. There is no way. 0 chance. Not without completely being able to predict all things ever in the future and being 100% accurate and robotic about every movement than followed in that span of time.
Sorry Yujo, I refuse your claims that you are god. This simply isn't possible, even in a world of magic ninjas. No matter what path of logic you take, this is not possible. I will repeat this as many times as I need to: There is no realistic way that kamui could hit. You could train for years on this exact situation and there would still be no way. All of the factors are against it being even close to on-target. It would not hit, it would not hit, it would not hit.
So my final judgement would be Yujo took out a random pedestrian's stomach, while Rak and Uetto can fight over whether or not Rak's Byakugan could catch him before he did his insta-poof touch.
Or, you can take the compromise.
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I'd rather take a community vote on this, majority will rule. Something like that. A judge is still a viable option, if you are up for it. But no compromise, there is no logical one.
You must have missed Trev and Kirk posting several options then. I could lose an ear, or a hand, or something like that.
Unless of course the reason you are so against this is it means I wouldn't die and you'd have to fight me, but nah, that's just crazy talk. Right? ^_^
PS, Marry me Kyutu.
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The main issue I see here if everything even is legit or on par to work is there is a major lack of location and timing between everything to actually rule on how it would play out.
So yeah a compromise. Which may I suggest that Rakudo seems to be accepting to your super hearing Yujo so perhaps you can adept his dodge? For the rest of the fight you would get this supper hearing to your advantage.
As for the Byakugan I am not voiding Rakudo's actions. Him and I agreed that after this we would make a topic about a few issues we wanted to discuss.
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Just please get a judge, or get a compromise going (seems unlikely).
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Just please get a judge, or get a compromise going (seems unlikely).
We're on it my man. Yujo wants a community vote and I'm good with that, community seems to vote compromise.
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Just make up your minds. So if we do have to vote we can fit it over with.
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So it seems so far we have
Compromise: Rakudo, Kyutu, Kirk, Nathan, Trev
People who say judge too: Nathan, Trev
Grumpy Town: Yujo
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A judge is the most viable option here, and I have tried to but Mister Frowny face over there won't accept it.
Literally never. Besides I like my last forum post a whole lot. +5 for visual aides.
---Original Message from Uzumaki Yūjō(2013-12-19 03:37:32)---
I say it's about time for us to grab a judge.
A judge is much faster, and taking a vote can be rigged considering Kiri is already infested with the most Shiesty of alts and such. I suggest we grab a judge, unbiased as we have to agree to this person, and this can be resolved before the day is done.
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So it seems so far we have
Compromise: Rakudo, Kyutu, Kirk, Nathan, Trev
People who say judge too: Nathan, Trev
Grumpy Town: Yujo
Make a poll.
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What Yujo said, 30 mins ago, when everyone wasnt going to clearly vote compromise "so at this point the only thing we can do is have the community decide." Now he wants a judge.
Hmmmmmmmm.
I don't think we need a judge. We all know who everyone is here, it's not like someones going to make a fake Zenaku or Kamui account and cast votes, we aren't dummies. That's why I'm not actually making a poll because you cant check who voted what. We'll just take tallies here like I just did.
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But, a judge is much, much faster. Don't know why you don't want to pick one.
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I say we elect Raifudo as Chief Higgins, grand master of dialects and ways of the mighty Hephalump.
P.S. That means get a judge somewhere.
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But, a judge is much, much faster. Don't know why you don't want to pick one.
I don't know what fights you've done, but judges have never been fast for me. You ignored Tsuyo, or my favorite one "Oh he was only judge for that ONE DECISION, obviously." :P
Yujo wants me to die, because he knows if we fight he will lose
Let's get a community decision! No I want a judge! No polls they can be rigged! I'm going to go make a poll! (he just pm'd me that one). He is tripping over himself trying to figure out what he needs to do to make me dead.
He said lets get a community decision first and I agreed to that, so that's what we are doing, sorry, no take-backsies. Taking a tally in the topic just like this will make sure we have an accurate pole.
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I say we elect Raifudo as Chief Higgins, grand master of dialects and ways of the mighty Hephalump.
P.S. That means get a judge somewhere.
If the vote goes judge I'm always good with Raifudo.
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Could judge you guys but neither of you would like it very much.
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Could judge you guys but neither of you would like it very much.
Maybe not have another one of the people in the fight be the judge.
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I was making suggestions >> Nothing was set in stone, so just stop that nonsense lol
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Rakudo refused a judge, so at this point the only thing we can do is have the community decide.
only thing we can do
Suggestion huh?
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SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO still not ready for a judge?
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SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO still not ready for a judge?
Nah I got a date, I'll come back and check this topic to see what the vote is at later tonight.
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Tell him I said Hi! xD JK JK.
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"The second stage manifests around the time the user comes of age, as manipulation over his/her surroundings. In Kyutu this is the power to use his chakra to control the flow of time. With this he can speed himself through time, reverse time, and even stop time if needed, among other things. This seems to take extreme amounts of chakra and would most likely be impossible for anyone without the bloodline limit to control. It is still unknown if there is more to this kekkei genkai."
Yeah, I don't think Kyutu should even exist lol, let alone have an opinion on any RP related Topic. This is just a side note. Time Release??
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This isn't here. It's just a figment of your imagination.
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"The second stage manifests around the time the user comes of age, as manipulation over his/her surroundings. In Kyutu this is the power to use his chakra to control the flow of time. With this he can speed himself through time, reverse time, and even stop time if needed, among other things. This seems to take extreme amounts of chakra and would most likely be impossible for anyone without the bloodline limit to control. It is still unknown if there is more to this kekkei genkai."
Yeah, I don't think Kyutu should even exist lol, let alone have an opinion on any RP related Topic. This is just a side note. Time Release??
Thinks that is highly uncalled for. To flame a person just cause their opinion is another then your own, really? Grow up.
You have no right to say what should or should not be off ones character. Why you question Kyu is beyond my knowledge except the fact he made some rather good points in Rakudo's favor. He is not rping with you so no need to bring up his character skills here just to bash him like that.
Also his KG has been around sense before you even typed a single letter into making an account at SL. SL has always accepted it. It is not god-modish at all really. Actually it if very creative something you noobs lack.
At these forms all have an opinion to be cast and you have no right to say otherwise nor to dictate who can and can't rp.
So indeed let us vote. I happily cast my vote in favor of Rakudo on this matter.
And here's a side note for you Yujo scum like is what has cast a pleague on a once great nation. This idea that you can say what is right and what is not about one's character. This immature bashing of those who prove you wrong. Here this young one, I am the heart and guardian of Konoha. I am one of the last of my breed. And I shall wash the village of Konoha clean from its scum... Welcome to hell my friend. Feel the wrath of true war, absolute sorrow.
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"Here this young one, I am the heart and guardian of Konoha. I am one of the last of my breed."
Says the guy who just called war on Konoha? Hmm. Sounds a little off to me. Though you are right, Kirk, you are one of last of your breed, hopefully at least we can be rid of Rp'ers like you sometime in the near future. Though, this isn't what this is about xD Not at all, Kirk is now mad, and casting his vote in favor simply because of his petty anger. This is why a community vote will not work, too many biased opinions, or ones that spawn from ignorance both of which apply in the so called heart of Konoha's case. A judge is the only viable solution, and the only sensible one at this point. Thanks for proving that, Mister Guardian.
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"Well sense the hearing thing seems to be legit. If this level if hearing is indeed accustomed to Oto. I didn't know it was an ototon skill but rather just a physical skill he had.
The timing is key then. Roughly I am thinking that Yujo started to cast his Kamui, which is super fast, right as I start to spring my hand from the ground. Which at that time Rakudo would have been activating his Byakugan I believe them he would have to register everything, not his attention is drawn to the Hokage Mansion so if he is focusing his Byakugan there which it seemed he was doing then I'm not so sure if he would have the 360 vision. I am aware the Byakugan grants it but only to a degree when one is focusing to a certain area I don't think they are granted rather to when they focus to a radius around them. So I would have to think there would be a split second between him activating noting and then equipping the raiton and the shunshin. So that my grant Yujo the time to Kamui him. Hell even me the time to snatch the sword. I'm not sure if his Byakugan is an implant but I don't think it grants the 360 vision if so, the implant Byakugan we saw didn't do so I think. Hell I would question if one Byakugan eye grants such at all.
The biggest thing I question on Rakudo's part is the instant activation of two jutsu at the same time. Wasn't the Riakage already cloaked in Raiton before shunshin combo? Also didn't there use to be a rule to where you had to perform hand seals before using a shunshin in fights? Or was that just a courtesy thing... I k ow other sites have the rule that hand signs are needed for shunshin and substitution."
And now to not sound like a complete ass, I posted that above, copied and pasted from Kirk's earlier opinion. To prove that he changed his vote because of anger.
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Wouldn't really call that a change in vote, he was already in favor of a compromise between you two. He's just more inflamed now.
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This is going nowhere. A community vote doesn't work people are too concerned with their own ambition to do so. A judge is the only thing I accept at this point.
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So, does Raifudo get a cereal-box badge saying he's a sheriff now?
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You know it's legit because it comes from our new grand poobah.
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Indeed. I can change my vote as I wish. Anger had nothing to do with it. I had changed my mind to Rakudo's favor before hand due to know information and understanding. Kyu's post playing a large role in such along with me having been wrong about the timing. If Rakudo noted me under the ground then that does place him encasing your Kamui. Anything otherwise would make your post meta-gaming on a few terms.
Regardless I'm not one to make an opinion based on anger. Rather my actions in rp will reflect that. I was for compromise not judge. You came here so lets settle it here therefor to move this along I castes a vote.
Also yes I questioned Rakudo's actions some but the thing is that was not playing a role in this as no one else seemed to take it into account but rather timing and location where the factors. So if there is no compromise then I feel Rakudo's post is legit.
Also this Lonoha isn't the Konoha I gave my full heart and loyalty to. This is like spitting on the graves of all my old comrades that fought and sacrificed for the village you dirty like that. No this is not Konoha it died long ago. Hopefully the few who still are of that time will understand this... Rise Neo-Konoha <L.nin>
Oh one more thing my breed is what once made Konoha and SL a great village and site. At least we could have fun and rp efficiently. Sure we are the idiots and god-modera yet we could settle a fight in a few hours and not have to take a week a post.
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Also yes I questioned Rakudo's actions some but the thing is that was not playing a role in this as no one else seemed to take it into account but rather timing and location where the factors. So if there is no compromise then I feel Rakudo's post is legit.
Also this Lonoha isn't the Konoha I gave my full heart and loyalty to. This is like spitting on the graves of all my old comrades that fought and sacrificed for the village you dirty like that. No this is not Konoha it died long ago. Hopefully the few who still are of that time will understand this... Rise Neo-Konoha <L.nin>
Oh one more thing my breed is what once made Konoha and SL a great village and site. At least we could have fun and rp efficiently. Sure we are the idiots and god-modera yet we could settle a fight in a few hours and not have to take a week a post.
This isn't about the old days or the old Konoha, so I'd appreciate it if you didn't go calling the old one better than the new one when this topic isn't even about that. Now, again, the two RPers need to come to an agreement and the mods should help that happen instead of everyone either insulting one another or adding nothing to the topic.
Also:
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I feel as if this isn't real. Needs more yellow font.
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:roll: I should have stuck around on the forums instead of playing Borderlands 2, jeez.
In light of my earlier suggestion, I stand firm by the thought that Kamui could reach out to the stars, and Rakudo being able to dodge it. But I guess that is technically siding with Rakudo, isn't it?
Listen guys, let's not make this about RP'ers. Throwing around 'scum' and 'breed' is not contributing to the topic at hand. It is only making it worse. Attacking each other is going to degrade this into a biju match of the most spiteful kind.
This is my last statement on the matter. I say both post are legit, and both succeed in doing what they do. Yujo will just have to close the portal and try again, if he gets the chance. Had Kirk not interfered, that probably would have been all he wrote.
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Wow... I forget to check the forum for one day, and everything explodes. XD
I stand in favor of Rakudo, or at least a compromise.
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I stand in favor of myself, and of the ignoring of the incredibly predictable decision of Yujo to ignore the community decision, that he asked for, that turned out to not benefit him.
Yujo we have you, in writing, saying that a community decision was the only way to do this. Then people started to agree with me and you changed your mind. We can all see this, you can't get away with it.
Also, if you are gonna start calling people out on their characters I would just delete your wiki page because I could go on all night about you.
And like I told you Kirk, I'm here to perform a much needed culling in addition to retrieving my bijuu. ^_^
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Get a judge.
That is all I am going to say.
I mean how hard is it to find someone on here that's unbiased in their judgment towards the other? I mean seriously...c'mon! :oops:
Another thing...why can't everyone quit going at each others necks and play friendly here?
That's means no flaming/personal attacks of any sort, it's something I won't tolerate and I will lock this thread, if someone decides to take it far enough... :evil:
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Get a judge. That is all I am going to say and if you two can't agree to one, well...it's because of the petty argument between you two, I guess. :oops:
Another thing, is everyone quit going at each others necks and play friendly here.
That's means no flaming/personal attacks of any sort, it's something I won't tolerate and I will lock this thread, if someone decides to take it far enough... :evil:
There doesn't seem to be a point to it Kamui. Yujo said lets get a community decision, I said ok, people started agreeing with me, he didn't want it anymore.
I'm not gonna reward that behavior with what he wants, he's only going to waste more of my time, you forget I am doing this because he dragged me through a stalled bijuu match for months on end.
Yujo made his bed, now he has to lay in it.
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Get a judge. That is all I am going to say and if you two can't agree to one, well...it's because of the petty argument between you two, I guess. :oops:
Another thing...why can't everyone quit going at each others necks and play friendly here?
That's means no flaming/personal attacks of any sort, it's something I won't tolerate and I will lock this thread, if someone decides to take it far enough... :evil:
You know I'm one to speak my mind Kamui and if someone is going to try to bully someone else because they don't agree with their side of the posting. Then I will state my mind. I feel obligated to defend the right of all to be able to rp and state their opinion here at the forum.
If I'm at flaw then so be but I will not apologize or go silent.
As to the matter at hand. I don't see how you can say get a judge... There are plenty here making a choice. The community was elected and agreed upon to be the judge.
If this was agreed upon how can it be changed now? I mean what if Yujo doesn't like this judge will another have to be found until one is found that will for certain rule in his favor?
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Get a judge. That is all I am going to say and if you two can't agree to one, well...it's because of the petty argument between you two, I guess. :oops:
Another thing...why can't everyone quit going at each others necks and play friendly here?
That's means no flaming/personal attacks of any sort, it's something I won't tolerate and I will lock this thread, if someone decides to take it far enough... :evil:
You know I'm one to speak my mind Kamui and if someone is going to try to bully someone else because they don't agree with their side of the posting. Then I will state my mind. I feel obligated to defend the right of all to be able to rp and state their opinion here at the forum.
If I'm at flaw then so be but I will not apologize or go silent.
As to the matter at hand. I don't see how you can say get a judge... There are plenty here making a choice. The community was elected and agreed upon to be the judge.
If this was agreed upon how can it be changed now? I mean what if Yujo doesn't like this judge will another have to be found until one is found that will for certain rule in his favor?
I was merely suggesting that *you* or *anyone* else stop adding more fuel into the flames.
You're free to speak your mind, but *watch* what is said on here as I will be monitoring everything. (Including reported posts)
Please mind my edits please and don't quickly jump the gun, because at this rate it doesn't look like any of you could find someone unbiased towards the other.
It's ridiculous and more one-sided if you ask me with everyone agreeing to one thing and then changing their opinions at the slightest thought that their decisions would benefit the other player's character.
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We could start adding the "once you post you accept it" rule to the forums as well I suppose, so people can't change their opinions. :P
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We could start adding the "once you post you accept it" rule to the forums as well I suppose, so people can't change their opinions. :P
Beggars can't be choosers, I suppose.
I think it would be better that everyone quit changing their minds so quickly and agree on one thing.
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We could start adding the "once you post you accept it" rule to the forums as well I suppose, so people can't change their opinions. :P
Beggars can't be choosers, I suppose.
I think it would be better that everyone quit changing their minds so quickly and agree on one thing.
We do seem to be wrapping this up, as far as I can see.
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My statement stands. I made suggestions, there is no rule stating that once I make a suggestions it is set in stone, it isn't my fault everyone jumped on the voting bandwagon. You can have whatever you'd like to have in writing, it doesn't matter, Kirk went right back on his word, so who's to tell how rigged or biased this voting can be. This Rp will stay halted until Rakudo concedes to finding a judge, thus making issue with these new Bijuu rules as he blatantly declined to find a judge. If he wishes to find loopholes in these rules, so shall I, so I say again, this Rp will be halted, regardless of the "Community vote" until a proper judge is found, and I believe Kamui would be happy to oblige at this point.
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Indeed. I can change my vote as I wish. Anger had nothing to do with it. I had changed my mind to Rakudo's favor before hand due to know information and understanding. Kyu's post playing a large role in such along with me having been wrong about the timing. If Rakudo noted me under the ground then that does place him encasing your Kamui. Anything otherwise would make your post meta-gaming on a few terms.
Regardless I'm not one to make an opinion based on anger. Rather my actions in rp will reflect that. I was for compromise not judge. You came here so lets settle it here therefor to move this along I castes a vote.
Also yes I questioned Rakudo's actions some but the thing is that was not playing a role in this as no one else seemed to take it into account but rather timing and location where the factors. So if there is no compromise then I feel Rakudo's post is legit.
Also this Lonoha isn't the Konoha I gave my full heart and loyalty to. This is like spitting on the graves of all my old comrades that fought and sacrificed for the village you dirty like that. No this is not Konoha it died long ago. Hopefully the few who still are of that time will understand this... Rise Neo-Konoha <L.nin>
Oh one more thing my breed is what once made Konoha and SL a great village and site. At least we could have fun and rp efficiently. Sure we are the idiots and god-modera yet we could settle a fight in a few hours and not have to take a week a post.
Like you Kirk, I was L. nin a long time ago; Possibly before even Fifty. I understand your cross but I'm not sure you're going through the right channels my friend. Instead of promoting revolt, I feel it'd be best to go about a more peaceful way. I can promise you that you won't find your vision of a better Leaf at the end of this path. I urge you to consider this before you do something rash for "United we stand, divided we fall." True it's cliche, but with it comes wisdom.
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I urge you to consider this before you do something rash for "United we stand, divided we fall." True it's cliche, but with it comes wisdom.
But it's fun watching Konoha implode on itself!
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I'm with Nathan and Yujo.
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If this is indeed coming down to a vote, mine would go toward Yujo's argument.
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I just think that the judge was agreed to be the community so I don't see how that can change now. Also you act like my vote changed all the sudden. If you can tell my fees started of with me agreeing with Yujo but slowly I started to take in everything and slide to Rakudo's side.
I don't just flip all at once. That why I said the whole compromise thing. Make me out to be a bad guy all you want but my views had changed greatly before the outburst. From talking in pm with people and from reading logical post made here as to why this Kamui is questionable and how the timing is in Rakudo's favor here I do believe.
I still think you two should just compromise which Rakudo is willing to do. However you Yujo are the one holding this up as you want do so. When several people said just compromise with each other. A simple mature thing that can be done. Two people laying aside hard feelings and just saying hey I'll let this go and you drop this and we call it even. But sense you didn't want that then I stated in Rakudo's favor as the timing and distance that is all to questionable here makes it to complex to say if your Kamui would hit.
Also you can halt this rp if you wish and I know all the blame will go to Rakudo cause people tend to not like him. But just compromise like he is saying he will do and end it or go by these votes like originally stated and end it. Yujo is the one dragging it out in my eyes, no offense but that's the way I see it. So if you are gonna hold use hostage just to get your way I say we just void your being there and carry on with the rp.
P.s. I was in L.nin months before Fifty even joined the site. He joined when Shikamaru was the Hokage I believe. I had joined when Rank was Hokage, although she soon betrayed the clan.
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Can't necessarily void his existence, considering he was there prior to the incident.
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Also make note that the Rp would exist if I wasn't there, Rakudo would have had no reason to come to Konoha.
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P.s. I was in L.nin months before Fifty even joined the site. He joined when Shikamaru was the Hokage I believe. I had joined when Rank was Hokage, although she soon betrayed the clan.
Yeah, I was around while Rank was Hokage also. I remember when I used to Zone with her back when I was still pretty fresh but memory doesn't serve her as well.
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Do people not realize the voting was for either having us compromise or finding a judge..?
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Gotcha Yujo, thanks for clearing that up.
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Do people not realize the voting was for either having us compromise or finding a judge..?
Honestly, no. I saw where it was stated and all but I didn't know if it was accepted. [Guess I must've skimmed a bit] To be honesty I think a compromise would be just as troublesome as this all so I'm voting for a judge to end all this.
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Do people not realize the voting was for either having us compromise or finding a judge..?
Honestly, no. I saw where it was stated and all but I didn't know if it was accepted. [Guess I must've skimmed a bit] To be honesty I think a compromise would be just as troublesome as this all so I'm going for a judge to end all this.
The compromise is that I would lose an ear or a hand, maybe just some fingers to the Kamui, and we would move on. Yujo just has to agree to that and we're done. But he won't because as I explained he needs to kill me.
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Would have to think a hand or arm is a fair compromise truthfully.
That hinders Rakudo a lot. Sure there are jutsu he can do with one or none but really you need two hands to do a lot of stuff. Look at Madara he didn't go about trying to fight one armed.
Also it takes Rakudo's explosion jutsu away from him some. Only having one hand left to use which if he did would leave him open in many ways. Not to account for the major blood loss that would prevent him from fighting very long.
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Am I missing anything about this thread so far?
AGREE WITH RAKUDO:
Raifudo
Rakudo
UettoSenju
Kyutu
Kaito
Sploofmoof
Eric(?)
AGREE WITH YUJO:
Nathan
Yujo
Thecurse
Steel
AGREE WITH FINDING A LOLPEACE (police, get it? [lol > pol / peace > lice]):
Kamui
Trev
UMM....
Tsuyo
Angra Mainyu (Angry man!)
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AGREE WITH FINDING A LOLPEACE (police, get it? [lol > pol / peace > lice]):
Gotta say, that was pretty bad bro~
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This seems like it's becoming a popularity vote and just what the person/people think in regards to Kamui, so I'd say the community vote is out the window. Just close this topic and have the two find a judge because, again, this is going nowhere. I could sit here and post yet again how Bocc'/Rakudo didn't activate Bykugan and how Kamui is INSTANT and then someone on Bocc's/Rakudo's side could completely disagree with me. Where does that get us? Nowhere.
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AGREE WITH FINDING A LOLPEACE (police, get it? [lol > pol / peace > lice]):
I'm at work with no coffee in my system, hush up. I tried.
Gotta say, that was pretty bad bro~
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AGREE WITH FINDING A LOLPEACE (police, get it? [lol > pol / peace > lice]):
I'm at work with no coffee in my system, hush up. I tried.
Gotta say, that was pretty bad bro~
Done messed up on that quoting, bro.
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AGREE WITH FINDING A LOLPEACE (police, get it? [lol > pol / peace > lice]):
I'm at work with no coffee in my system, hush up. I tried.
Gotta say, that was pretty bad bro~
Done messed up on that quoting, bro.
As I said in my messed up quoting.
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This seems like it's becoming a popularity vote and just what the person/people think in regards to Kamui, so I'd say the community vote is out the window. Just close this topic and have the two find a judge because, again, this is going nowhere. I could sit here and post yet again how Bocc'/Rakudo didn't activate Bykugan and how Kamui is INSTANT and then someone on Bocc's/Rakudo's side could completely disagree with me. Where does that get us? Nowhere.
And I could link you to the definition of the word BEFORE, again, since you still don't know the meaning, but that is clearly irrelevant.
Also ignore the fact that most of the people who have voted have put forth arguments of their own at some point or at least said why they are voting for which ever. Thecurse doesn't hate me, he just thinks we should get a judge.
There is nothing wrong with this but Nathan and Yujo, the people who most want me to die, don't like it...
Hmm.... Occam's Razor says the simplest answer is usually the right one so I'm going to have go with answer B, "Nathan and Yujo are cranky that I'm now winning an argument they thought they had in the bag and I won't be dying this post."
At some point I think they have both said a judge would be fastest too, in which case I question their perception of the passage of time, because I am pretty sure just saying "Rakudo loses a hand, moving on." is going to be significantly faster than presenting our arguments all over again to a judge. :P
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I put Trev on my side too since he said we should just get a judge or compromise, which ever. So really it is just the same but this
AGREE WITH RAKUDO:
Raifudo
Rakudo
UettoSenju
Kyutu
Kaito
Sploofmoof
Trev
Eric(?)
AGREE WITH YUJO:
Nathan
Yujo
Thecurse
Steel
AGREE WITH FINDING A LOLPEACE (police, get it? [lol > pol / peace > lice]):
Kamui
Trev
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Eh, I prefer not to have my opinion counted as a vote as it was not intended to do so.
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I'm not a thing? Fine, I'll be non-existent in my own corner. Q~Q
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This seems like it's becoming a popularity vote and just what the person/people think in regards to Kamui, so I'd say the community vote is out the window. Just close this topic and have the two find a judge because, again, this is going nowhere. I could sit here and post yet again how Bocc'/Rakudo didn't activate Bykugan and how Kamui is INSTANT and then someone on Bocc's/Rakudo's side could completely disagree with me. Where does that get us? Nowhere.
And I could link you to the definition of the word BEFORE, again, since you still don't know the meaning, but that is clearly irrelevant.
Also ignore the fact that most of the people who have voted have put forth arguments of their own at some point or at least said why they are voting for which ever. Thecurse doesn't hate me, he just thinks we should get a judge.
There is nothing wrong with this but Nathan and Yujo, the people who most want me to die, don't like it...
Hmm.... Occam's Razor says the simplest answer is usually the right one so I'm going to have go with answer B, "Nathan and Yujo are cranky that I'm now winning an argument they thought they had in the bag and I won't be dying this post."
At some point I think they have both said a judge would be fastest too, in which case I question their perception of the passage of time, because I am pretty sure just saying "Rakudo loses a hand, moving on." is going to be significantly faster than presenting our arguments all over again to a judge. :P
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I put Trev on my side too since he said we should just get a judge or compromise, which ever. So really it is just the same but this
AGREE WITH RAKUDO:
Raifudo
Rakudo
UettoSenju
Kyutu
Kaito
Sploofmoof
Trev
Eric(?)
AGREE WITH YUJO:
Nathan
Yujo
Thecurse
Steel
AGREE WITH FINDING A LOLPEACE (police, get it? [lol > pol / peace > lice]):
Kamui
Trev
I'll humor you:
Just kidding. Get a judge.
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Ok I pick Raifudo, Kirk, Kyutu, Kaito, or Trev to be a judge. They say we should do the compromise, my hand falls off, it's Yujo's post.
If anyone OTHER than the two Konoha nin who need me to die this post to save their own lives thinks we should void the community poll that was agreed upon then maybe that would actually be legitimate.
I mean come on can you guys make yourselves look any more ridiculous? Scroll back a few page a see Yujo saying "The only thing that we can do is have the community decide" me agreeing to it, and then Yujo and Nathan saying they wouldn't listen to it when it went in my favor. Yujo first posted saying he didn't want a poll because it could be rigged and then pm'd me 15 mins later saying.
---Original Message from Uzumaki Yūjō(2013-12-19 22:14:54)---
I'm going to open a poll. A real vote will be had.
I've had my fair share of leaf nin whining and crying, I'm done with it. I'm sure if you guys want to ignore what we agreed upon because it didn't go your way I can find plenty of people to make another community decision to just strip Yujo of the three tails for refusing to rp in its defense. If he isn't following the new rules then please let me know and I will just challenge him for it and this will all be much simpler.
It's very obvious you guys are just going to bounce around to whatever option shows the most promise at the given time so I see no reason to change anything.
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I have no idea who would even judge this fight. Most people that I can think of right off the bat have already posted their opinion, so they're obviously not going to be chosen.
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I have no idea who would even judge this fight. Most people that I can think of right off the bat have already posted their opinion, so they're obviously not going to be chosen.
Like I said Nathan and Yujo are only insisting on a judge because it is the only way this can end with me dying. If they agreed to me losing a hand I'd take decent damage, all arguments would stop, and the rp would instantly resume but that isn't enough for them.
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I have no idea who would even judge this fight. Most people that I can think of right off the bat have already posted their opinion, so they're obviously not going to be chosen.
How does that stop someone from being a judge? It's what they're doing ultimately.
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I have no idea who would even judge this fight. Most people that I can think of right off the bat have already posted their opinion, so they're obviously not going to be chosen.
How does that stop someone from being a judge? It's what they're doing ultimately.
I assumed he meant that Yujo can see everyone who has agreed with me at some point and so he won't agree to them being a judge. Since they'd be the smart ones.
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I have no idea who would even judge this fight. Most people that I can think of right off the bat have already posted their opinion, so they're obviously not going to be chosen.
How does that stop someone from being a judge? It's what they're doing ultimately.
I assumed he meant that Yujo can see everyone who has agreed with me at some point and so he won't agree to them being a judge. Since they'd be the smart ones.
I have the perfect judge.
We'll ask Neiji who is right and then whatever he decides it's final.
Him or we ask Kishi if any one can contact him.
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Again, even of this vote comes out to be 100 vs 4 it won't matter, so everyone please go on ahead. Rakudo refused a judge, and I refused to accept this vote, simple as that. The vote quickly turned into a popularity contest, and it's a silly way to decide things considering. A judge to be found is the only way to resolve this, otherwise you can count on this staying right here, no progress, and a halted Rp.
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Again, even of this vote comes out to be 100 vs 4 it won't matter, so everyone please go on ahead. Rakudo refused a judge, and I refused to accept this vote, simple as that. The vote quickly turned into a popularity contest, and it's a silly way to decide things considering. A judge to be found is the only way to resolve this, otherwise you can count on this staying right here, no progress, and a halted Rp.
We'll ask Neiji who is right and then whatever he decides it's final.
Him or we ask Kishi if any one can contact him
The judges.^
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I'd volunteer considering all I do is lurk the forums and any and all rp that happens doesn't affect me or anything I will do-- but I doubt Riku wants that.
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Considering you have already chosen a side, the bias is unacceptable. Otherwise I would have been fine with it.
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Considering you have already chosen a side, the bias is unacceptable. Otherwise I would have been fine with it.
Then we really will have to use Neji, who hasn't posted in this topic? I asked Zenaku before what he thought and he agreed with me, so you won't want to use him. Kamui was here, Kyu, Tsuyo, Eric, pretty much anyone I could conceivably want to use as a judge.
Please tell me who you want to be a judge, the first thing they can decide is whether or not you should be stripped of the 3 tails for ignoring a decision you agreed to and refusing to rp in its defense.
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Considering you have already chosen a side, the bias is unacceptable. Otherwise I would have been fine with it.
How is someone making a decision, all-things considered, biased? That's just stupid.
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Considering you have already chosen a side, the bias is unacceptable. Otherwise I would have been fine with it.
How is someone making a decision side all-things considered biased? That's just stupid.
Come on Rai, reading about what is happening and then forming an opinion on it is completely unacceptable for a judge. They need to be totally clueless to be effective.
Of course lets just ignore the fact that you just read the topic and posted your opinion on your own after reading what me and Yujo were saying, you know, the EXACT THING a judge would do.
Yujo doesn't want a judge he just wants someone to say I'm dead. In fact, here is my simulation of Yujo's actions if I did agree to a judge, based on months of exposure to the babbies of Konoha.
*Judge agrees with me, maybe even says I can dodge completely with no damage*
Yujo: He/she was obviously just biased against me, I'm not accepting that decision (again).
Sounds eerily familiar doesn't it?
You know what Yujo, genius? Not only do we have to find someone who hasn't posted in this topic we have to find someone who hasn't READ this topic, otherwise they'd already have an opinion right? We have to find someone who knows nothing about this and tell them THEY CAN'T READ ABOUT THE PROBLEM THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO MAKE A DECISION ON. Because if they read this topic they might not form the opinion you want them to, and what good is that then?
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Again, even of this vote comes out to be 100 vs 4 it won't matter, so everyone please go on ahead. Rakudo refused a judge, and I refused to accept this vote, simple as that. The vote quickly turned into a popularity contest, and it's a silly way to decide things considering. A judge to be found is the only way to resolve this, otherwise you can count on this staying right here, no progress, and a halted Rp.
We'll ask Neiji who is right and then whatever he decides it's final.
Him or we ask Kishi if any one can contact him
The judges.^
Neji couldn't care less about the RP of SL.
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Perhaps the community should just vote of stepping Yujo of the Biju??? That doesn't need a judge but just our vote...
Also Yujo you are just beating around the bush until people give in to you. Really who are you gonna get to judge that would want to?
People are allowed to make opinions even if they don't agree with yours. Quit being but hurt and just compromise.... Really dude it seems you are scared to face Rakudo at this point.
Or is it the simple fact Nathan and you, the two wanting this judge and to not compromise, are the truly extreme bais ones?
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(16h44m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo notes Yujo had a problem with him using the bijuu telepathic link to dowse for him, so fine, Rakudo reposts. Rakudo had set out from Kirigakure to scrounge up the rest of the bijuu. His first destination is Konoha, from there he can begin head -
(16h43m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - heading to any of the other villages, so it was as good a place to start as any. He landed his clay bird in front of Konoha's gates and hops off, drawing Samehada from his back as he does. He sets the sword down on the ground and it stands, -
(16h42m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo -on all fours, using its spines as little legs to walk. Rakudo and Samehada enter the village, Samehada crawling along at Rakudo's side. As they make their way down the main thoroughfare Rakudo says to the blade, "Smell anything tasty -
(16h39m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - Samehada?" The swords nuzzles against Rakudo's ankle and he rolls his eyes, "Yes I know you are fond of Gyuki's chakra Samehada, but we are looking for other chakras today. Look for big chakra, big like me." The sword shimmies back -
(16h37m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - from Rakudo and begins to scuttle down the main road that leads to the center of the village. Rakudo follows and as they go further Samehada's tongue hangs out of its mouth and it begins to pant and drool. The sword takes off faster now, and -
(16h34m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo dashes after it, Samehada must have caught the "scent" of a very large source of chakra to make it get this excited, hopefully it was a Jinchuriki. He did keep Samehada well fed after all, so even a man with exceptionally large chakra should -
(16h33m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - not set him off this much, it should be another one of the bijuu, unless there was someone here with that much chakra. Regardless, Rakudo follows after Samehada as it scuttles toward the center of the village and the Hokage's mansion.
(15h44m) <火> Uzumaki Yūjō |From inside the Hokage's office, Yujo's well trained ears picked up on what the man outside had said. A bijuu Hunter? A sigh was released from his lungs and out onto the world. "One moment." He began walking towards the window that (C)
(15h39m) <火> Uzumaki Yūjō (C) overlooked the mainstreet in which the sound was heard from. During that 2 second walk, he shifted his eyes to those of the Mangekyo and peeked out said window to see the man walking the samehada like some sort of dog. (C)
(15h35m) <火> Uzumaki Yūjō (C) At which point a baseball sized kamui would be shot out at the mans' forehead, of course closing down to steal a portion of his brain, to make it go bye bye. This of course would be done in a microsecond, and without any sort of defensive (C)
(15h32m) <火> Uzumaki Yūjō (C) measure up, ol' Samehada would be left without an owner, at least an alive one.
(14h25m) <||||> Uchiha Kage watches the small skirmish from atop the Hokage monument, eating popcorn at the sight of all the assumptions. Notably, he had been sitting upon the monument of his favorite Hokage, the Shodaime.
(15h27m) <火> TachiUchiha an arm would spring from the ground to brush against the scale holding sword. Kirk having used his transportation system to originally rise in the street but this weapon gave him interest +
(15h24m) <火> TachiUchiha which made his actions alter in an attempt to capture the sword. Seeing how he would rise his arm right under the sword to cut it off in its tracks the blade may have been caught off guard. Then agian there was a good chance it would be drawn +
(15h22m) <火> TachiUchiha to Kirk's being as he himself hosted a rather huge chakra supply along with a rare treat for the blade. The chakra of the gift of the hermits a chakra so rare the blade would more then likely be drawn to it highly. All Kirk would need was a +
(15h19m) <火> TachiUchiha simply brush of his touch to the weapon which would be followed by an instant puff of smoke the sword being sent to Kirk's holding cell and what not in the SGT where it would be fed by a mass storage of chakra from tailed beast to more exotic +
(15h18m) <火> TachiUchiha meals. The touch of his skin to the sword having activated the Flying Thunder God of course. Unknowingly to Kirk Rakudo would seem to be in a bind himself.
(15h17m) <火> TachiUchiha converses, "Wrong account... Oh well. All actions go to my main. I think you know who that is."
(14h56m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo entered the gate of the village and said a sentence or two and Yujo, at the center of the village, in a building, can hear him. Ok. Let's break this one down. If Yujo can hear Rakudo just inside the gates when he himself is at the center of -
(14h55m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - of the village then Yujo must be able to hear at least that far in all other directions too, which means he is hearing pretty much everything in the village at all times. We know this is a just a passive ability since Yujo didn't activate -
(14h51m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - anything to use it, his ears are just that "well trained". So by Rakudo's logic this means Yujo must just be hearing an overwhelming probably buzzing screeching noise at all times. He's hearing everything so there's no way he be able to -
(14h48m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - pick anything out from the ruckus. If he wasn't just stricken deaf by this noise he's probably completely completely mad, there'd be no way he could sleep like that, he'd eventually just die from sleep deprivation Rakudo supposes. -
(14h45m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo -Shockingly Yujo's ability doesn't make any sense, man, it's only the 6th consecutive time that has happened. So while Yujo deals with the entire village of Konoha taking ice picks to his ear drums Rakudo would activate his Byakugan. -
(14h42m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - He did this to observe the Hokage building that Samehada seemed to be leading him to but the all-around vision it granted allowed him to see Kirk coming from the underground to just rob him for no reason. Lie, Cheat, and Steal, the Will of -
(14h39m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - Fire 2.0. Rakudo would active his Raiton no Yoroi and shunshin to the side. Being the/one of the fastest men alive did have its perks. He would snatch up Samehada as Kirk reached up at it with his grubby little fingers. This would happen -
(14h37m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - as Yujo, should he over come the blinding pain being rocketed into his ears, looked out the window, so the highest of high speed shunshins would take Rakudo out of the way of his Kamui attempt, since it was so small Rakudo would only need to -
(14h37m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - move very slightly to avoid it. Rakudo would have shunshined himself into an alley way, looking down at the ground where Kirk was. From this angle there would be no way Yujo could see him and launch another Kamui, several buildings were in -
(14h34m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo - the way after all. Rakudo looked at the Kamui snapping shut where he had just been (assuming Yujo's ability to cast it) and Kirk's hand poking out of the ground and pointed an accusing finger at him, "What is WRONG with you people?!?"
(14h23m) <火> Uzumaki Yūjō begins to break this down slowly so that Rakudo could understand this, regardless of his lack of brains. (No Literally his brain is like gone. Read on!). So, moving on Rakudo firstly character controlled my character, with him making the (C)
(14h20m) <霧隠> Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo sits down with some popcorn, "Oh he's gonna try and explain things again, this is gonna be good."
(14h19m) <火> Uzumaki Yūjō (C) assumption that my 6 month RL time training in Oto with the Otokage, while leading the Sound ninja 5, wouldn't allow me to do the things described with my own ears, and all that writhing in pain nonsense, laughable character control. (C)
(14h16m) <火> Uzumaki Yūjō (C) Moving on, the Kamui tech would be shot off, would hit, and Rakudo did die, leaving a hole in the middle of his skull. With sight of this, Yujo shunshined to the dead body, formed a seal, and used the Uzumaki sealing technique to seal away (C)
(14h15m) <火> Uzumaki Yūjō (C) all of what was left of Rakudo. "Well, would you look at that? He kinda died, poor fella."
Rakudo
Yūjō
Uetto
Kage
I broke everything down and will give a ruling, if anyone is willing to listen. :roll:
Rakudo left Kirigakure via his clay birds and entered Konohagakure (The gates), from there he traveled with his Samehada in attempt to search out the Jinchuuriki.
This itself is plausible because as I read from it's abilities, it can be used as a quasi-sensor. (Note; I said quasi-sensor)
I made note during your first post that no doujutsu of any sort was active and you were basically taking Samehada for a walk.
Yujo accepted that post and for whatever reason that was confirmed earlier, he was able to pinpoint where and who Rakudo was at the moment. (Bijuu-hunter)
An action was initiated in where a "Kamui" was focused and cast upon Rakudo's location; namely his forehead.
Kirk's action came soon after Yujo's own and he attempted to grab the Samehada while Yujo's action was taking place, however it's up to debate what he was using to travel underneath the earth, since it was never stated.
Rakudo's reaction was to activate Byakugan to Kirk's own action, seemly knowing where he would come from and form an evasive maneuver to Yujo's own action, which was the activation of Raiton no Yoroi to avoid being sucked into the Kamui itself.
This is debatable since you stated in your first post nothing was active, you wouldn't actually known what had hit you until it was too late.
Raiton no Yoroi would allow you to escape the barrier from by the Kamui, but at a cost of injury to yourself. (Lost an ear, part of your face, etc)
My final ruling here is that, Rakudo was barely able to escape the Kamui, but albeit at a cost of losing something.
If you guys can't compromise to my ruling then what's the use of getting a judge or getting a community vote out of it since 'sides' are already being picked at this point.
Also with the accusations of meta-gaming and character-controlling being thrown out there, it's clearly becoming obvious both sides are at fault from the looks of it.
Edit; Thanks to Kage for going through all the trouble of highlighting the specifics of the RP in such detail. :oops:
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Again, even of this vote comes out to be 100 vs 4 it won't matter, so everyone please go on ahead. Rakudo refused a judge, and I refused to accept this vote, simple as that. The vote quickly turned into a popularity contest, and it's a silly way to decide things considering. A judge to be found is the only way to resolve this, otherwise you can count on this staying right here, no progress, and a halted Rp.
We'll ask Neiji who is right and then whatever he decides it's final.
Him or we ask Kishi if any one can contact him
The judges.^
Neji couldn't care less about the RP of SL.
We'll have to ask Kishi.
Anyone knows his phone number/Email address or any forms of contacting?
Back to the topic.
Just let the whole thing slide.
Give Yujo a week period of getting Ready.
We get Kirk out of he way.
Then Rakudo can challenged Yujo.(Also wouldn't this cause war because like the mist is taking out tailed beast host.Also if Yujo beat Rakudo wouldn't cause a war also?)
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I don't think their just going to restart the battle, and I don't think Kirk is going to drop out cause you said so. >>
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Wow look at that Kamui's JUDGE LIKE DECISION was the EXACT SAME THING as the suggested compromise, imagine that.
I already spoke to Xia about this and Kiri is prepared for whatever, though I think Konoha will be thanking me by the time I am done. Not that they'll have the military potential to do much else. :P
inb4 Yujo saying he never agreed to Kamui as a judge. JUST POST BEFORE I REACH ACROSS THE INTERNET AND STRANGLE YOU!
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/8/01
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Wow look at that Kamui's JUDGE LIKE DECISION was the EXACT SAME THING as the suggested compromise, imagine that.
I already spoke to Xia about this and Kiri is prepared for whatever, though I think Konoha will be thanking me by the time I am done. Not that they'll have the military potential to do much else. :P
inb4 Yujo saying he never agreed to Kamui as a judge. JUST POST BEFORE I REACH ACROSS THE INTERNET AND STRANGLE YOU!
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/8/01
I like how everything is nit-picked around here and now you want Yujo to acknowledge your post of seemly evading two actions without any repercussions of a prior mistake that was made by you in your first post? (Byakugan wasn't active and damage must be taken for being caught inside of a 'Kamui' prior to the secondary post)
I could bring up some points to the accusations of meta-gaming, character-controlling and downright prove that both are at fault of these accusations being thrown around. (Remember your secondary post, Rakudo?)
I suppose nowadays to combat this form of abuse, it's to basically okay to "one-up" the other person and pull some sort of Wile E. Coyote vs Roadrunner nonsense. (It's what Yujo basically did when Rakudo character-controlled his character into being overly hearing-sensitive.)
What about the so-called compromise? You make it seem at this point, that the only logical thing to do is say, "Welp. Rakudo evaded everything and No Samehada for you Kirk. Yujo must post now." :roll:
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Pretty sure Rakudo said he was fine with losing a body part.
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Pretty sure Rakudo said he was fine with losing a body part.
That's exactly what I said, and what I've been saying. Kamui just totally missed it I guess.
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Pretty sure Rakudo said he was fine with losing a body part.
Well it didn't come out like that with this post below, which is why I asked about the compromise.
inb4 Yujo saying he never agreed to Kamui as a judge. JUST POST BEFORE I REACH ACROSS THE INTERNET AND STRANGLE YOU!
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/8/01
I suppose if he is okay with losing a specific body part then I gotta ask where does everything stand right now? We wait until Yujo's response on the topic? I'm lost here...
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The compromise was that I would lose an ear or something and we continue, exactly what your decision was. Yujo isn't going to agree to it regardless. If the rp continues he loses, all he is fighting for is the chance that I die this post.
#notheredit: I guess I should edit my post first so my wound is present before Yujo posts anyway. I am thinking I lose an ear or have my cheek ripped open or something of that nature.
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#notheredit: I guess I should edit my post first so my wound is present before Yujo posts anyway. I am thinking I lose an ear or have my cheek ripped open or something of that nature.
C'mon, as if the guy's who can't agree on this, not agree with having Rakudo don a new appearance over dying such a considerably disputable death:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c7/Two-faceEckhart.jpg)
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Exactly what I was gonna do too.
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Pretty sure Rakudo said he was fine with losing a body part.
That's exactly what I said, and what I've been saying. Kamui just totally missed it I guess.
This exemplifies why the nit-picking is so detrimental. after 12 pages of bicker fest 3000, its a wonder anyone can keep track of a thing here. Perhaps in the future a problem should be stated concisely, the other parties involved should state their side one time...and then everyone should be hands off until a ruling is made.
What is the sense of having GMs if everything is going to be debated in committee until the whole world is blue in the face?
We did do that. Everyone said what they felt about the fight, others questioned some of their thoughts but got better understanding of why they thought so when they explained further. Unfortunately people won't find themselves too happy when they're faced with one going against them-- so the bickering continues where (for instance) they ask for community voting and then switch to saying judge, but then no judge is good enough.
And if you didn't read Rakudo saying so, he asked Zenaku who agreed with him. That's not good enough for Yujo, though.
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Pretty sure Rakudo said he was fine with losing a body part.
That's exactly what I said, and what I've been saying. Kamui just totally missed it I guess.
This exemplifies why the nit-picking is so detrimental. after 12 pages of bicker fest 3000, its a wonder anyone can keep track of a thing here. Perhaps in the future a problem should be stated concisely, the other parties involved should state their side one time...and then everyone should be hands off until a ruling is made.
What is the sense of having GMs if everything is going to be debated in committee until the whole world is blue in the face?
We did do that. Everyone said what they felt about the fight, others questioned some of their thoughts but got better understanding of why they thought so when they explained further. Unfortunately people won't find themselves too happy when they're faced with one going against them-- so the bickering continues where (for instance) they ask for community voting and then switch to saying judge, but then no judge is good enough.
And if you didn't read Rakudo saying so, he asked Zenaku who agreed with him. That's not good enough for Yujo, though.
Hush Ray-Ray... You're just being bais :D
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Well Yujo did not agree to Zen being the judge before. I asked Zenaku on my own time what he thought, and he agreed that Kirk's post was able to be taken advantage of as I did to dodge Yujo's attack. What I said was that since I already talked to Zenaku and he already agrees I am correct I already know Yujo won't listen to him, he only wants a judge that will agree with him. Short of maybe Nathan I'm not sure who would at this point.
We are all likely to be a bit preoccupied with the holidays so I doubt we will see too much of them if they have a viable excuse to not be here. My suggestion is that I repost getting wounded and once we are all done putting on even more holiday weight we can deal with Nathan and Yujo if they are still refusing to post. Sound good to everyone?
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Stays lit year round so just do this thing already.
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Well Yujo did not agree to Zen being the judge before.
That's in reference to Kay asking what's the purpose of having GMs.
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Why can't we just get along? It's Christmas time for goodness sake! :-?
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Why can't we just get along? It's Christmas time for goodness sake! :-?
I'm with this guy. I don't want the Christmas Spirit of Future breaking into my house. <.<
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Why can't we just get along? It's Christmas time for goodness sake! :-?
I'm with this guy. I don't want the Christmas Spirit of Future breaking into my house. <.<
I agree! Let us have a Christmas miracle!
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Why can't we just get along? It's Christmas time for goodness sake! :-?
I'm with this guy. I don't want the Christmas Spirit of Future breaking into my house. <.<
I agree! Let us have a Christmas miracle!
Nothing short of divine intervention is going to squeeze a post out of Yujo, so I guess everyone start praying to your respective deities.
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Why can't we just get along? It's Christmas time for goodness sake! :-?
I'm with this guy. I don't want the Christmas Spirit of Future breaking into my house. <.<
I agree! Let us have a Christmas miracle!
Nothing short of divine intervention is going to squeeze a post out of Yujo, so I guess everyone start praying to your respective deities.
It happened.
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Praise be to Allah. Now he just needs to repost removing all the god modding.